Part of why I caution people about joining “we’re saving the world!” companies. Once you believe your mission is more important than anything, it justifies a huge amount of misbehavior.
The problem with rationalists is that there’s enough hackers among
them that there’s a plausible threat of digital fuckery that comes with
criticizing them.
The only time I followed and participated, on the edges, in
discussions about SSC and rationalism, the main dude in those discussion
who was criticizing rationalists was threatened with doxing, i.e. SSC
supporters/rationalists posted evidence of a bunch of related anonymous
accounts the person had and made clear they knew the person’s identity.
It was done both to threaten and discredit them.
This is how I found these people in the first place. They did this to
the NYTimes journalist, they ran with Gamergate..This is also how the
rationalists treat Jason Hickel.This is how the tech industry treats
Taylor Lorenz and Timnit Gebru.
Everything has sunk to the level of the 2014 alt-right.
And it’s not completely unrelated to how the tech libertarians ran
campaigns in San Fransisco like YIMBY and School Board Recall. Fake
profiles, astroturfing, straight up lies and accusations.
>Did they take issue with his characterisation of global trade flows from GSouth to GNorth?
Yeah they ran a medium article spree some years ago. He asked for some researchers' data, he critiqued it, they called it dishonest, a hitjob and iirc theft.
These guys doing this are probably also free speech absolutists,
which usually means. I want to be able to say anything without
consequences. They will never see their hypocrisy.
He discusses them and how he confronts them in the infamous video he recorded for Scientology that leaked in 2008: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ\_uAbxS0
If you believe your philosophical view does the absolute most good for humanity, any threat to that view is a threat to humanity, no?
The problem with rationalists is that there’s enough hackers among them that there’s a plausible threat of digital fuckery that comes with criticizing them.
The only time I followed and participated, on the edges, in discussions about SSC and rationalism, the main dude in those discussion who was criticizing rationalists was threatened with doxing, i.e. SSC supporters/rationalists posted evidence of a bunch of related anonymous accounts the person had and made clear they knew the person’s identity. It was done both to threaten and discredit them.
This is how I found these people in the first place. They did this to the NYTimes journalist, they ran with Gamergate..This is also how the rationalists treat Jason Hickel.This is how the tech industry treats Taylor Lorenz and Timnit Gebru.
Everything has sunk to the level of the 2014 alt-right.
And it’s not completely unrelated to how the tech libertarians ran campaigns in San Fransisco like YIMBY and School Board Recall. Fake profiles, astroturfing, straight up lies and accusations.
Do i smell pure altruism?
These guys doing this are probably also free speech absolutists, which usually means. I want to be able to say anything without consequences. They will never see their hypocrisy.
Looks like EA has SPs (Scientology’s Suppressive Person, for those who missed the beautiful Tom Cruise video.)
Out of curiosity, are we bothering to archive tweets in case the site goes kersplooey?
My views aside, this is concerning.