posted on April 09, 2023 06:12 PM by
u/ZenosTortoise
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In case people don’t get the reference:
“Mainstream Science on Intelligence” was a public statement issued by
a group of researchers of topics associated with intelligence testing.
It was published originally in The Wall Street Journal on December 13,
1994, as a response to criticism of the book The Bell Curve by Richard
Herrnstein and Charles Murray, which appeared earlier the same year.[1]
The statement defended Herrnstein and Murray’s controversial claims
about race and intelligence.[2]
The statement was drafted by Linda Gottfredson, a professor of
educational psychology at the University of Delaware. It was sent to 131
researchers whom Gottfredsen described as “experts in intelligence and
allied fields”. Of these, 52 signed the statement, 48 returned the
request with an explicit refusal to sign, and 31 ignored the
request.[3][4]
According to a 1996 response by former American Psychological
Association president Donald Campbell, only ten of those who signed were
actual experts in intelligence measurement.[5] The Southern Poverty Law
Center reported that 20 of the signers were recipients of funding from
the white-supremacist organization the Pioneer Fund, including
Gottfredson herself.[4]
During subsequent years, both the substance and the interpretation of
this letter have received criticism from
scientists.[6][7][5][8][9][10]
Murray is one of the names that caused me to 'nope' on out of the (ir)rationalist community when I first found it. I kept going back and going, was it really that bad. Yep, yep it was. The problem was the wall of text critted me every time I went there, and I had to make my saving throw to detect bullshit.
Have you seen the Shaun vid on the bell curve? it's brutal. Oh yeah and I just saw a portrait of Clarence Thomas's Nazi enthusiast friend Harlan Crow that he had commissioned, depicting Crow and Murray gazing off into the distance lmfao. ["Contemplation"](https://twitter.com/plmanseau/status/1644770450805870598?s=20)
I just watched it. Well done take down. I remember picking that book up in the bookstore, and skimming it getting more and more concerned and finally getting ill.
I swear to god, every time one goes down the AI rabbit-hole the Pioneer Fund inevitably shows up. It was created almost a hundred years ago to fund eugenics research
Sébastien Bubeck, head of Machine Learning at Microsoft Research,
(deliberately?) reveals his power level when he defines “intelligence”
while trying to prove that GPT 4 possesses some of it.
I saw a youtube video thumbnail titled “Why does AI lie so much?” and
it seems so disingenuous to even call it “lying”… these language models
don’t have a concept of truth or falsehood. it says incorrect things
with the exact same confidence it says things that happen to be correct.
No intelligence to be seen.
In case people don’t get the reference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_Science_on_Intelligence
Sébastien Bubeck, head of Machine Learning at Microsoft Research, (deliberately?) reveals his power level when he defines “intelligence” while trying to prove that GPT 4 possesses some of it.
https://youtu.be/qbIk7-JPB2c?t=862
I saw a youtube video thumbnail titled “Why does AI lie so much?” and it seems so disingenuous to even call it “lying”… these language models don’t have a concept of truth or falsehood. it says incorrect things with the exact same confidence it says things that happen to be correct. No intelligence to be seen.