Cultural Learnings of Schopenhauer for Make Benefit Glorious Website of ACX

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posted on April 12, 2023 12:50 AM by u/pjst1992

I was just re-reading perhaps the single most arrogant thing I’ve ever read and thought: who does Schopenhauer remind me of? Rationalists should read WAW&R

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u/pjst1992 3 points at 1681263120.000000

I thought posting his essays was a bit of a cheap shot. He's wrong about so many things: women physiognomy, Hegel (correct me if I'm wrong, I have no formal training). But this is literally the first preface to World. He wrote it when he was 30 and let it stand for the rest of his life. It's fucking mind-bogglingly arrogant even given his place and time

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u/pjst1992 5 points at 1681264655.000000

Fair enough. I will get on with it. Amazing translation compared to the Payne version which was what I read first. Could elaborate on the parallels I see between Schopenhauer and rationalists, but they're quite obvious. Schopenhauer had a much larger skull than Scott or Yud in my estimation

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u/pjst1992 1 points at 1681264904.000000

fwiw I think the argument guide is a good guide for "debating" obstinate people you'll never bring around. E.g. most rationalists, libertarians, etc.

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u/pjst1992 3 points at 1681296654.000000

Yeah, I think he genuinely detests sophistry. But I like it when applied judiciously. Give your interlocutors the respect they deserve: virgin argumentation for those amenable to it, Chad hominems (and/or sneers) for the rest

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u/pjst1992 6 points at 1681260864.000000

For an example of how not to be. Schopenhauer was born in 1788. What’s Scott’s excuse?

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u/V0ldek 4 points at 1681286062.000000

For Schopenhauer that’s downright homely.

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u/DieLichtung 3 points at 1681322688.000000

This is arrogant? What?

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u/pjst1992 2 points at 1681322904.000000

I'm not saying anything about its truth value, but come on. "The Upanishads can be derived as corollary" lol jfc yes it's arrogant. More proof: this is the only place I think he ever explicitly conceded the arrogance of something he wrote, or that it might be taken that way. I do take it as arrogant. Sorry not sorry

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u/pjst1992 4 points at 1681325024.000000

Let's call it hubristic and chauvinistic then. Whatever word I can attach to the sense of unease I feel when I read it, SSC/ACX give me the same feeling but often worse

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u/DieLichtung 1 points at 1681323093.000000

baby mentality You probably also make a big deal out of (shock! horror!) discovering that a philosopher was a racist.

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u/pjst1992 4 points at 1681323319.000000

I don't. I like Schopenhauer. You think I have to agree with his politics? You think I have to agree with half his essays? But yeah Kant should be cancelled for being racist lol. Baby mentality is assuming like you just did

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u/DieLichtung 3 points at 1681323440.000000

Of course. How are you going to be a master idealist if you don't shove women down the stairs?!

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u/pjst1992 4 points at 1681323647.000000

I'm sure you know what he wrote in Latin when she died, right? Obit anus, abit onus Guy was a colossal arsehole. I could go on. He had mummy issues I think reflect in his work, etc.

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