Oh for sure, that too. His massive brain undoubtedly helped him to conclude that he could accomplish both goals simultaneously.
Although maybe that's giving him too much credit; throwing in "but also I'm a genius lol" is something he does so often that it's probably just reflexive at this point.
The real way to break cryptography: being an acausal robot god so
people know that you will eventually break it in the future and punish
them if they don’t give you access. More effective than a lead pipe.
I love how an advanced AI creating thermodynamics-defying
nanomachines is totally plausible, but the same AI finding a solution to
P=NP is unthinkable. Does his hierarchy of impossibilities have some
sort of reasoning behind it? Or is it just rooted in which concept is
more likely to feature in scifi novels?
How to tell when EY is joking:
- When he gets called out for being a crank
How to tell when EY is being serious:
- When he is not being called out for being a crank
cryptography works because the effort required to break the code is
exponential in the code length. The AI god can just bring exponential
resources to work the problem, since it can build self replicating
subpopulations who grow exponentially. QED
The irony is if these goofs just stopped trying so hard to pretend
they’re not doing theology, “can God defeat cryptography” would actually
be a kind of interesting reframing of the ol’ Euthypro dilemma in terms
of mathematical law…
I do wonder how theologians would answer that sort of question. Can God devise an algorithm that sorts an arbitrary list in time linear in the length of the list? Can God find a prime factor of 14 that is neither 2 nor 7? What would it even *mean* to be able to do those things?
God is omnipotent, why wouldn't he be able to do any of those things? I feel like a lot of your questions are just of the sort "Could god make a married bachelor?", which just conflicts with how we define these concepts, but has nothing to do with ability.
Oh wow, his overuse of mystical nanomachines really is just a higher-brow version of Deepak Chopra talking about quantum waves. (Including the same degree of understanding of the physics of the real versions.)
The funniest part about quantum cryptography breaking freak outs is that before we get there quantum communication will probably give us the solution to the problem first anyway
So Yudkowsky is saying “don’t worry about AI cracking our encryption
to get useful information, it’ll just eat the computers and destroy the
information?”
I think he's saying that, if the AI needs your passwords to access your data, it'll just get them directly from your brain when it turns everything into gray goo.
I'm not sure why he thinks it would want to do that if it can already just skip to the step where it turns everything into gray goo, though. He's probably just habitually regurgitating related science fiction plots without giving any deeper thought to whether they really make sense in context.
Source Thread: https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1648323158020354048?s=20
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The real way to break cryptography: being an acausal robot god so people know that you will eventually break it in the future and punish them if they don’t give you access. More effective than a lead pipe.
Some guy: “So an advanced program with deep resources could break cryptography?”
Yud: “It’s actually just going to eat you alive with tiny sci-fi machines!”
I love how an advanced AI creating thermodynamics-defying nanomachines is totally plausible, but the same AI finding a solution to P=NP is unthinkable. Does his hierarchy of impossibilities have some sort of reasoning behind it? Or is it just rooted in which concept is more likely to feature in scifi novels?
It feels he’s just trolling at this point.
Rubber hose, nobody uses lead pipes, they both deform and leave bigger bruises.
cryptography works because the effort required to break the code is exponential in the code length. The AI god can just bring exponential resources to work the problem, since it can build self replicating subpopulations who grow exponentially. QED
The irony is if these goofs just stopped trying so hard to pretend they’re not doing theology, “can God defeat cryptography” would actually be a kind of interesting reframing of the ol’ Euthypro dilemma in terms of mathematical law…
Should’ve just said “quantum”.
So Yudkowsky is saying “don’t worry about AI cracking our encryption to get useful information, it’ll just eat the computers and destroy the information?”
Am I reading that right?
Wtf has he done to his profile pic? Taken a shower?
why would the AI want your bitcoin in the first place, ryan