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Should sneerclub join the blackout June 12th to protest reddit api changes? (https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/142wneo/should_sneerclub_join_the_blackout_june_12th_to/)
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This post has the rundown on what the protest is about. In brief, reddit is making 3rd party api calls prohibitively expensive. Beyond what this means for users, it affects the tools some mods use (at other, larger subreddits, not this one).

Should sneerclub join? If so, do we shut down for just two days, or indefinitely?

My view is I’m in favor of shutting down—which we’d do by making the subreddit private so it can’t be visited—for the two days. If the 14th comes and reddit has taken no action, this could be extended if others keep up the protest. But I didn’t want to unilaterally make the decision.

The sub overwhelmingly has gone one way, so we’ll join the protest.

Go for it. This website is basically unusable without a 3rd party app and old.reddit

Yes

The real sad part is going to be all of the information that was here no longer being centered here; for example, my Google searches almost always included the word Reddit to avoid automatically-generated websites with no real information on them.

Aka the reason they just realised “holy shit this is a goldmine”. Turns out elon was right, now that someone has a real use for that data it makes sense to lock the gate yesterday.

Remember, these guys were profitable 10 years ago but as soon as Huffman came back he did the classic 140 IQ silicon valley move and took out hundreds of millions of dollars in venture capital debt to hire an unsustainable number of fresh grads, then tasked them with “make a new website” and ended up with a steaming pile of shit. Reason? He wanted to IPO his shares lol.

Even as someone that never uses third party apps or old.reddit, yeah, fuck em, join the protest. Reddit’s always been a gross org whose countless deficiencies I’ve minimized because I like a few subreddits, but if this is it, this is it.

Burn reddit down

I can’t use this site on my phone without rif. Burn reddit to the ground

Yes.

Solidarity is the core of all sneers

I say shut it down.

I say shut it down for a couple days.

We’re too small to make any impact but it shows solidarity with sending the message. And I think a couple days without Reddit might do some people some good - chill out and enjoy the end of spring.

damn. i hate when im reading through old stuff on reddit and in the middle of a sparkling, scintillating discussion i find someone has written over all her old comments with nonsense, fragmenting the discussion permanently. what hilarious, moving, romantic, haunting things could she have said? just to wash it all away, in this digital era of permanency? wow. that takes courage. i bet she was really cute, too

do it. stick it to the man

I intend to boycott Reddit entirely for those few days, so, yeah, absolutely.

sounds good to me, as both a user and a mod. resist enshittification.

Yes. I can’t be reduced to using Reddit’s first-party experiences if I am to continue sneering. Sir Basil and the House of Kooks will not stand Reddit’s treachery! To arms, I say!

How does this affect the acausalrobotgod’s plans?

do you know just how many virtual lockers She already has lined up for the Reddit executive
Infinite multiplexy of forced ads on new reddit page, forced to scroll for all eternity past the same reposts.
Giving a 50% discount for reddit execs.
Either way, everything comes up Milhouse.

Si

Nah, go for it. Fuck this place

Yes. F reddit. I can certainly survive two days (or more) without sneering

and my axe

I guess I’m in the extreme minority here. I have no strong affection or opinion about Reddit as an org, but I generally believe that organizations have a right to enforce access to their data, which includes charging for it. (It’s also not clear to me why Apollo and the like cannot simply pass the charges on to their users.) I don’t think it’s great that OpenAI scraped a bunch of data produced by others and now charges for access to it? Surely Wikipedia, Stack Overflow and Reddit should have gotten some money out of that rather than being played for dupes?

But whatever, shut down if you want, I don’t really care.

I mean, I agree that the AI scraping without compensation was terrible. But the valuable data Reddit has wasn't created by Reddit-the-company; it was created by the people who use the site, and especially there was hours and hours of curation work done on that data by people for zero pay. Now that Reddit-the-company realized this data could be worth money, they're gonna claw back that value for themselves -- and as compensation for being the ones who provided that value, the users and moderators are rewarded with... a significantly *worse* user experience designed to juice Reddit's financial prospects before the site owners cash out in an IPO? Hmm. It's not surprising people are upset, even if the profit motive for the decision is fairly obvious. I mean, you bring up Stack Overflow, and it's worth noting SO's volunteer mods are [also currently on strike](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/389811/moderation-strike-stack-overflow-inc-cannot-consistently-ignore-mistreat-an) over some boneheaded AI-related policy decisions by the company that owns the website, so...
If you want compensation for mods and users who produce the content -- which I agree with -- the first step is claw back compensation from data scrapers to Reddit itself. There's no universe where OpenAI starts reaching out to reddit mods to pay them for their work. There is maybe a universe where Reddit, perhaps under threat of competition, starts compensating its most prolific producers and mods to keep them around. Compare with TikTok and YouTube -- TikTok is an evil company with terribles motives, and yet it admitted it started paying its top creators in part to compete with YouTube and Instagram, which also compensate creators. I don't disagree that the labor and effort here is not exactly Reddit's, but it's more Reddit's than it is arbitary external scrapers.

I’m on the fence. I am 100% for accessibility and people being able to access the site comfortably in their own ways. But I’m also 100% for anything that hurts Reddit.

This does both, doesn't it? Hurting Reddit (as a company) is the goal here.

Close it indefinitely. Deadlined “strikes” like this don’t usually work.

yes

This comment has been removed due to reddit’s overbearing behavior.

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Yeah, I miss Pushshift.

No