That post: Stop obsessing about IQ start measuring yourself by how much money you make (by the way I make 450-550k depending on my productivity). Not sure that’s an upgrade
It's strangely comforting and at the same time terrifying to me to learn that some of the weird foibles and pathologies I suffered from as a kid in the mostly pre-internet 90s now have whole communities dedicated to them online, with even their own in group language and lore.
Growing up these days, it's gotta be hard not to get bogged down in this stuff.
It's a fascinating field made absolutely insidious by racism, ego, and failure to recognize socioeconomic background biases, almost everywhere. Not just my opinion, but the consensus of almost the entire Stanford Psychology faculty when they got together for a colloquium on it about a decade ago.
> Not just my opinion, but the consensus of almost the entire Stanford Psychology faculty when they got together for a colloquium on it about a decade ago.
Have any more information about this? Google isn't helping here.
The colloquium was not recorded and I don't remember the title, but will look for it in my emails.... About 30 faculty attended and there was a lively spontaneous conversation among several.
That subreddit is a good example of why widespread adoption and acceptance of IQ would create an extremely stratified society where social cohesion collapses and feelings of superiority and inferiority dominate all interactions.
The biggest advocates of IQ know this hence their dream of a semi-totalitarian eugenic state.
Every morning when I wake up, my first thought is whether I am smart
enough. I try to convince myself of my intelligence by recalling my past
achievements. However, then I remember that one easy math or physics
problem from 10th grade that I couldn’t solve, and it brings me down.
This cycle repeats every day. I want to think about real problems but I
waste my time trying to prove myself that I am smart enough and even if
I score high its never enough for me . I really want to break free from
this loop. Do you have any suggestions?
IQ - 130-140 accross all the tests mentioned on this sub.
This is just the big brain version of this classic FYAD meme:
> EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A VHS INTO THE SLOT. ITS CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START DOING THE MOVES ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, RIDDICK. I DO EVERY MOVE AND I DO EVERY MOVE HARD. MAKIN WHOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SLAM DOWN SOME NECRO BASTARDS OR EVEN WHEN I MESS UP TECHNIQUE. NOT MANY CAN SAY THEY ESCAPED THE GALAXYS MOST DANGEROUS PRISON. I CAN. I SAY IT AND I SAY IT OUTLOUD EVERYDAY TO PEOPLE IN MY COLLEGE CLASS AND ALL THEY DO IS PROVE PEOPLE IN COLLEGE CLASS CAN STILL BE IMMATURE JEKRS. AND IVE LEARNED ALL THE LINES AND IVE LEARNED HOW TO MAKE MYSELF AND MY APARTMENT LESS LONELY BY SHOUTING EM ALL. 2 HOURS INCLUDING WIND DOWN EVERY MORNIng
I actually mostly feel bad for this person. I don't know what childhood trauma set them on this path, but they probably need to do something that makes them happy. And maybe spend some time with people who aren't brilliant, to see that they can get things done and none of this matters.
If it's pathological, what they're describing sounds a lot like OCD to me. Like instead of pathological scrupulosity or religiosity, they're instead obsessed with being/feeling/appearing intelligent. Not objectively knowing exactly how smart they are causes them great anxiety, and they have the need to "check"and quantify their intelligence in response. They even have little rituals to assuage the anxiety from the intrusive thought that they might not be as intelligent as they need to be.
Much like rationalism, this corner of the internet seems to attract those with the tendency to obsess, and then slowly drives them insane.
Saying this as someone with the condition, I'm not ragging on them for being potentially mentally ill.
The way they’re describing this they sound self-aware. They understand that they’re caught in a pattern of thought that isn’t helping them and that the solution is to change the pattern. They are probably in a place to fix this problem either with therapy or some other intervention
Living organisms developing in completely different environments will
differ in all mendable characteristics within their type (IQ is one of
those mendable characteristics) as a byproduct of natural selection and
evolution, that is axiomatic and irrefutable.
I came for some sneering, and they did not disappoint. Clearly, this
person has superior ‘mendable characteristics’ compared to certain
types of people from their obviously high IQ vocabulary use.
(And as befitting a Sneer Club worthy highlight, the post isn’t even
true. Phenotypical variation within a species differs depending on the
traits looked at and the species. Also, this post doesn’t feel
compatible with things like convergent evolution, etc.)
Holy shit, I thought the “introduction to hereditary iq science” post
was bad, but this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/cognitiveTesting/comments/11p9q7w/interesting_results_of_giving_these_nazi/
Jesus christ
>> It’s generally accepted Hitler was the smartest of the Nazis, maybe bar one or two members. Can’t test him of course but it would have been nice to. Göring especially talked a lot about Hitler’s intelligence.
> I doubt he would have been able to lead these men if he wasn't around 150 himself.
(Comments so bad im afraid the reddit admins are now looking over my account to ban me in Germany)
Also note that only a few people go 'source?' and there is no reaction to it, but all the Mensas are accepting it as true.
> And Hitler dominated most of them in discussions, utilizing his charisma and his gift of near-perfect recall.
> He had near perfect recall?
> Hitler shocked military men with his ability to describe obscure details about numerous weapons and systems.
Stupid person's idea of a smart person, etc. etc.
Also of course he'd know a lot about weapons, he was a soldier in WW1. It was part of his job!
They should sticky this post.
Cognitive testing and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
E: ah small warning, apparently the sub has a few people trolling in there, so don’t take all comments as being true.
E2: what a day to make a unabomber joke.
Wow. Just wow.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cognitiveTesting/comments/1463ck2/comment/jnoagam/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
I came for some sneering, and they did not disappoint. Clearly, this person has superior ‘mendable characteristics’ compared to certain types of people from their obviously high IQ vocabulary use.
(And as befitting a Sneer Club worthy highlight, the post isn’t even true. Phenotypical variation within a species differs depending on the traits looked at and the species. Also, this post doesn’t feel compatible with things like convergent evolution, etc.)
My brother in Christ, just jerk off like a normal human being
Holy shit, I thought the “introduction to hereditary iq science” post was bad, but this: https://www.reddit.com/r/cognitiveTesting/comments/11p9q7w/interesting_results_of_giving_these_nazi/
“Intelligence and Race: A Discussion”
Didn’t take quite as much scrolling to see this as I thought it would