posted on October 20, 2018 09:22 AM by
u/seeking-abyss
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u/biztheclown17 pointsat 1540056122.000000
Is it that they really don’t understand? Or is it that people who
live with over-policing in poor neighborhoods understand that it’s not a
fluke thing to be encountering a bad cop. They know that they are
engaged in an ongoing iterative strategic game with individual cops,
whose names and reputations they also know. That if they are a pushover
to these cops then they will be seen as a pushover going forward and
that these bully cops will pick on pushovers all the more. It would be a
strange occurrence if Sam Harris were to actually fit the description of
a criminal being sought and it would be unlikely to recur. It can be a
daily occurrence for poorer racial minorities in America. Sam Harris is
so clueless here. “it’s something that people just intuitively, it
seems, do not understand.” Or maybe their intuition is right and Sam
Harris’ intuition is not valid across all demographics.
I’m almost certain some black people have been killed by cops they
called themselves. And what videos has he been watching? All the ones
I’ve seen go viral have been black men peacefully complying with cops
and being killed anyway, or being shot in the back as they ran away. I’m
sure there happen to be cases of black people getting killed after
pushing a cop, but I don’t think any right minded person would say they
are the majority.
.. I don't understand your comment and I am not sure you understand mine.
I was referring directly to something Harris says in the clip, I don't remember exactly what it was but it was something like "unless you call the cops yourself, you should always comply immediately with all cops instructions, then you won't get killed". Unfortunately, the clip was removed (and I am sure it wasn't quite like I wrote there, but I can't remember sorry)
To keep things clear I will reply to your edited post here
I wholeheartedly agree. The penalty for pushing a cop should not be death, and the cop should not be the judge jury and executioner for any black person they meet. I didn't mean to imply otherwise, sorry. In a truly free society, anyone should be able to walk up to a cop and punch them in the face, and expect that the punishment for that crime is in proportion (and I don't mean an eye for an eye).
I focused on the wrong thing here, so sorry about that. But I just noticed that Sam Harris is talking as if every video he has seen involves a black person putting a cop's life in danger and that's just absurd.
Is it that they really don’t understand? Or is it that people who live with over-policing in poor neighborhoods understand that it’s not a fluke thing to be encountering a bad cop. They know that they are engaged in an ongoing iterative strategic game with individual cops, whose names and reputations they also know. That if they are a pushover to these cops then they will be seen as a pushover going forward and that these bully cops will pick on pushovers all the more. It would be a strange occurrence if Sam Harris were to actually fit the description of a criminal being sought and it would be unlikely to recur. It can be a daily occurrence for poorer racial minorities in America. Sam Harris is so clueless here. “it’s something that people just intuitively, it seems, do not understand.” Or maybe their intuition is right and Sam Harris’ intuition is not valid across all demographics.
Stiller IRL
I’m almost certain some black people have been killed by cops they called themselves. And what videos has he been watching? All the ones I’ve seen go viral have been black men peacefully complying with cops and being killed anyway, or being shot in the back as they ran away. I’m sure there happen to be cases of black people getting killed after pushing a cop, but I don’t think any right minded person would say they are the majority.
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