posted on March 03, 2019 01:48 PM by
u/FederalInvite
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Sure, there is zero scientific basis for asserting that
non-neurotypicality is caused by parents “screwing up” and this
“refrigerator mother” bullshit was already completely discredited by the
1970s, but what’s a rationalist without privileging bigotry over
rationality ? Poor people shouldn’t have children, they’re going to turn
them crazy ! /s
Shit, when I’m reading this I feel offended on the behalf of my
parents.
Note that this is the exact same people who will call you ableist if
you don’t buy in their anti-feminist ideology.
Also, if James Miller say that they generally agree you but this time
he think you’re too bigoted, this should alarm you in more than one
way.
I guess to be fair Ozy was assuming a neurotypical 14-year-old, in
which case I can sort of see their point. (Though, also, kids have
personalities and agendas that aren’t 100% under parental control, and
plenty of 14-year-olds wouldn’t get themselves to the bus because they
don’t wanna). But I’m balking at giving them a pass for that
assumption, given the way this community weaponizes ableism discourse to
make antifeminist arguments.
> this community weaponizes ableism discourse to make antifeminist arguments
I honestly don't see the link to either ableism or anti-feminism in Ozy's statement... care to enlighten me?
They're assuming all 14-year-olds are neurotypical, so if they can't get themselves to the schoolbus, it's because their parents failed them. It's a mildly ableist assumption.
There's no link to anti-feminism in Ozy's statement. The only reason I mentioned it is that this subreddit has discussed other examples of rationalists using dishonest allegations of ableism against feminists complaining about harassment.
(ETA correct pronouns, sorry!)
including [as a defence of sending women dick pics](https://reddragdiva.tumblr.com/post/146163833063/punching-down-in-a-curved-social-spacetime). "why can't *I* be a horrible shithead *tooooo*"
Yes, and Ozy is especially fond of this trick, up to and including [in their defense of Gamergate](https://cptsdcarlosdevil.tumblr.com/post/99342253763/i-went-to-erons-hearing-on-tuesday).
I always thought the reason high school starts when it does was due
to a combination of wanting sports practices to be over at a reasonable,
preferably non-dark hour and a recognition that some families’ commutes
may include an elementary and a high school dropoff.
I do think that towns in which high schools do not start the latest
of all school are doing it wrong, however.
Jordan Peterson thinks you have to get your life completely in order before you start criticizing social injustice.
Caring about the den is just collectivist nonsense, leading to chaos and gulags.
Well he doesn't really think that, the pattern with Peterson is that he clearly has a love of the gnomic no less than the messiahnic: the phrase "clean your room" appeals for its pithyness but doesn't have much substance; its corollary, that you have to start working on your soul or whateverthefuck first before you can deal with the world is pretty standard conservative faire. The clever bit is where he doesn't really seem to believe any of this guff and is somewhat carried away by his own eloquence: hence the habit of combining two into one as above in order that it comes off glowing with insight!!!
Does anyone have a link to that /r/slatestarcodex comment where a guy said that Peterson fans are sexually attracted to him because he reminds them of their mother who also often told them to clean their room ?
Sure, there is zero scientific basis for asserting that non-neurotypicality is caused by parents “screwing up” and this “refrigerator mother” bullshit was already completely discredited by the 1970s, but what’s a rationalist without privileging bigotry over rationality ? Poor people shouldn’t have children, they’re going to turn them crazy ! /s
Shit, when I’m reading this I feel offended on the behalf of my parents.
Note that this is the exact same people who will call you ableist if you don’t buy in their anti-feminist ideology.
Also, if James Miller say that they generally agree you but this time he think you’re too bigoted, this should alarm you in more than one way.
I wonder if Ozy’s no doubt genuine surprise at the idea they had a comet tail of receipts stretching across the solar system has abated any
… nah
I guess to be fair Ozy was assuming a neurotypical 14-year-old, in which case I can sort of see their point. (Though, also, kids have personalities and agendas that aren’t 100% under parental control, and plenty of 14-year-olds wouldn’t get themselves to the bus because they don’t wanna). But I’m balking at giving them a pass for that assumption, given the way this community weaponizes ableism discourse to make antifeminist arguments.
I always thought the reason high school starts when it does was due to a combination of wanting sports practices to be over at a reasonable, preferably non-dark hour and a recognition that some families’ commutes may include an elementary and a high school dropoff.
I do think that towns in which high schools do not start the latest of all school are doing it wrong, however.
Man they are scared to death of melanin, oh wait nevermind it’s about melatonin.
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