“Everything more complicated than protons tends to come in
varieties”
Jesus fuck he’s so fucking bad at philosophy and physics that he has
no business trying to bootstrap intuition from those into subjects he’s
even more embarrassingly inept at.
Everything more complicated than protons tends to come in varieties.
Hydrogen, for example, has isotopes. Gender dysphoria involves more than
one proton and will probably have varieties.
That’s an interesting definition of ‘not all gender dysphoria is
real’.
>> Everything more complicated than protons tends to come in varieties. Hydrogen, for example, has isotopes. Gender ~~dysphoria~~ involves more than one proton and will probably have varieties.
>
Let me guess how many of these pricks want to hear *that*, though..
I mean. Yudkowsky has also said that (paraphrased) “it’s not a lie to call a trans woman “she””, so I don’t think he’d actually complain if you said that there were more than two genders. I’d be surprised if he went beyond “tweeting TERFs and making inane statements about categories being things that exist”.
> Hydrogen, for example, has isotopes. Gender dysphoria involves more than one proton and will probably have varieties.
Hydrogen has isotopes, but I'm pretty sure the hypothetical isotope with, say, 10 or 100 neutrons doesn't have any real-world applications.
Similarly, ROGD is a variety of dysphoria that you can conceptualize, but is it useful to apply it to people? (No.)
What sucks is that Yudkowsky actually seemed pretty good on trans issues. Awhile back he posted on Twitter about what a dumb hill "biological pronouns" was to die on.
Right, which is why this was disappointing to see. I thought Yudkowsky was better than this.
But it shows the danger of buying into this heterodox branding. Sometimes someone's ideas are rejected because they are bad or harmful. So we shouldn't reflexively go to bat for 'censored' scholars. Reversed stupidity is not intelligence, as a wise man [once said](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qNZM3EGoE5ZeMdCRt/reversed-stupidity-is-not-intelligence).
Yeah, this seems like a case of contrarian brain poisoning. Anyone that claims to be persecuted by the left gets a half-assed boost based on ad-hoc reasoning..
Zinnia Jones has written some good stuff about Littman's paper and ROGD more generally. [Here](https://medium.com/@zinniajones/my-letter-to-the-brown-daily-herald-on-rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-and-lisa-littmans-response-9a5c5a0d9b61) is a good start.
She published a rather flawed paper on "rapid onset gender dysphoria". It's back in the news because PLOS ONE published a set of corrections and clarifications of its flaws (https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/file?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0214157&type=printable). And quillette of course had to quillette about it.
Somebody should just tweet ‘I dont know much about AGI, but I don’t think it will be a big problem’ at him in a few months, see how he reacts.
Edit: before he manages to morph into a huge sealion btw.
or physics
or AI
or anything they teach in highschool really
but by all means go on?
Have you ever considered, I don’t know, TALKING TO SOMEONE WHO DOES?
“Everything more complicated than protons tends to come in varieties”
Jesus fuck he’s so fucking bad at philosophy and physics that he has no business trying to bootstrap intuition from those into subjects he’s even more embarrassingly inept at.
We know, Eliezer, we know.
Thank you for this necessary clarification
That’s an interesting definition of ‘not all gender dysphoria is real’.
I know two others have noted this in particular, but goddamit Eliezer
To be fair, it takes a very high IQ to understand gender dysphoria from the lens of rationalism.
Isn’t this an argument for believing literally anything ever? “Unicorns are real.” “Well, animals do come in varieties, so ok”
The whole thread should just be us quoting this.
Already noped out.
“Excellent analogy! I couldn’t have said it better myself”
“NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. THERE ARE EXACTLY TWO GENDERS AND SCIENCE WILL NEVER SAY OTHERWISE”
i don’t know anything about lisa littman - can someone explain what the deal with her paper is?
god, I hate his moldy face