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EDIT: [It’s not just him either, whole subthread is packed with people struggling to hide their power levels] (https://old.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/bnzb9k/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_may_13_2019/encs5ff/?context=2)

> The 2020 Democrats are currently proposing race based wealth transfers. I like how the article this links to refers to only two candidates, Harris and Warren, expressing support for reparations (lol, "race based wealth transfers"). Not even proposing actual plans or legislation, just statements of support. But, no, all the candidates are proposing stealing money from whitey to buy black votes or something. Not surprising that, for all /r/ationalist pretense that nothing is too taboo to discuss, blue tribe even just talking about reparations is all the proof of "anti-white" agenda that justifies their own preemptive culture warring.
tHe_MoTtE iS fAiR aNd BaLaNcEd

Funny how this talk is always fundamentally nihilistic

If you can’t beat the genetic tide, might as well join the white nationalists

The only time anybody seems to pipe up that “maybe we should actively do something about reducing this apparently innate human capacity for racial conflict” is when they want to give black people new DNA to make them whiter

I suspect part of that is that outright calling for the Lesser Peoples to be purged is against sub rules.

the repeated unironic use of “SJW” gives this a completely different tone.

whenever someone uses “SJW” unironically i pretty much lose whatever respect i had for them, however little.

Can we at least agree that social justice, broadly construed, is a good thing that any considerate and conscientious individual would seek to realize? I guess we're too many years into stacktivism, shitposting, and reactionary outrage to expect "SJW" to refer to anything like that but, you know, let's not throw the baby out with the sewage water.
> Can we at least agree that social justice, broadly construed, is a good thing that any considerate and conscientious individual would seek to realize? But the reactionaries *don't* agree with this. It's not just shit-posting, it's a substantial political disagreement.
I'd say that the majority, though, from tradition-minded conservatives to moderate liberals and even self-considered left-wing liberals, all too quickly buy into the reactionary image of the SJW as some slacktivist mob and/or some raging radical feminist, leading some to post something like: > whenever someone uses "SJW" unironically i pretty much lose whatever respect i had for them, however little. When, if not preoccupied with that image, they would otherwise unironically agree with the view that social justice - not just broadly construed but in many substantive points - is worth fighting for. It's another instance of a reactionary narrative spinning the prudent and common-sensical as radical and resentful.
Sure, this is the reactionary plot, witting or otherwise, presumably: get people to associate the idea of social justice with buffoonery, and you can trick people who'd never otherwise go in for such things to oppose social justice.
Surely that comment was a rejection of the reactionary narrative of the SJW?
And I suspect that too many folks, and maybe that comment, uncritically adopt the reactionary narrative as the actual case.
Is it a disagreement about whether justice of the species pertaining to social matters is good, or just what it is constituted by? If the latter, then presumably on a broad construal there _is_ agreement or close to it, just not on anything less than a broad construal.
> Is it a disagreement about whether justice of the species pertaining to social matters is good Yes, cf. Nietzsche's critique of slave morality.
It's absolutely baffling to me that so many goddamned people who claim the banner of rationality use that term. It's fucking meaningless. Using weasel words is *supposed* to be the kind of habit you get out of when you value rational thinking.