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/r/TheMotte discovers the idea that right-libertarians might not be 100% totally right about absolutely everything, is confused (https://reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/c9y4uk/against_libertarian_criticisms_of_redistribution/)
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Well, that king has more or less existed. Hes the Native Americans. More or less, because of course they conquered each other too, but the rightful owner was always some other Native American. They also had a ridiculously low population density, so much so that the Europeans could reasonably argue that “noone needs this much land”. Indeed, some tribes had more land per person than certain petty lords in Europe. And yet we feel bad about what happened to them, and the people who advocate redistribution usually more so. Describing someone as a “king” in your thought-experiment sure makes them sound unsympathetic.

There are only two options for the propertarians when it comes to this issue: Ignore it, or engage in genocide apologia.

also there were a lot more of them until smallpox read 1491
Yeah, so if people with a lot of wealth can be expropriated... then can we do it now too, please ?
> some tribes had more land per person than certain petty lords in Europe. Here we see, in all its magnificent glory, the rationalists’ appreciation of sovereignty.
Is it even true?

… , taking your stuff is not aggression unless it actually does rightfully belong to you, and the whole project of the advocate for redistribution is to try and prove that, in some cases, it doesn’t.

In fact if the supporter of redistribution is correct about who rightfully owns what, then in the non-aggression principle would imply that action resisting redistribution is impermissible, as it would be a form of aggression.

Imagine reading this and not realizing how bankrupt all of this NAP talk is.

Well there’s being 100% right about everything, then there’s being somewhat less wrong than just about everyone else.

Showing that the former isn’t true doesn’t prove the latter is false.

nice LessWrong reference
Doesn't this just display how the attitude boils down to tribal association?
No, it demonstrates that the mentality of 'being somewhat less wrong' is insufficient to support your rambling ideas about anything from politics to AI to fanfic.
Not mutually exclusive. You should know better. Also confused why you are referring to me that way, are you confused?
>Also confused why you are referring to me that way, are you confused? "Your" was the generic "you". Apologies for making it seem it was personal. It's not. >Not mutually exclusive. You should know better. Should I? How about you (u/vertr) say something more specific about "the attitude". Who's attitude are you referring to?
You didn't offer a narrative that indicated contradiction or conflict in any way, rather you just said 'no' and shot something else off (which I don't disagree with at all). That's not an effective response to an argument. I don't really think that shows good faith, and I'm not particularly interested in filling it out further so you can come up with something to disagree with. Please tell me if I'm incorrect.
> Please tell me if I'm incorrect. Since your previous comment, I suspected that I had no idea what your argument actually was, so I asked for an expansion of a certain term, for clarity. Please, simply expand on [your first comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/capfvh/rthemotte_discovers_the_idea_that/etb2q8r/). It's ambiguous to me.
The poster's rebuttal to the thread was essentially quoting the name of the website and the most basic goal of the movement. I was not-so-effectively arguing that was not a rational response or even really _responding_ at all, but instead an 'oorah', or signaling an association with a tribe and agreement with it. SO I think that does align with what you about a mentality not being enough, except that I go even further and suggest it doesn't even qualify as a response at all, just noting alignment (as shown by comparing themselves to "everybody else.") Let me know if that clarifies enough.
>but instead an 'oorah', or signaling an association with a tribe and agreement with it. Agreed! And thanks. > I was not-so-effectively arguing that Agreed! >Let me know if that clarifies enough. Very much so. Let this be a lesson: Gentlewomen should broke no cryptic, insider, passive aggressive references here. This is the SneerClub!
are you lost
Holding this opinion doesn't make it right
Errr... what???
> doesn't prove Weird thinking a single post on /r/SneerClub was attempting this.