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Where’s the sneerclub effort posts? (https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/cdqrux/wheres_the_sneerclub_effort_posts/)
posted on July 16, 2019 01:57 AM by u/aptmnt_
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Yes, I was drawn in by Meditations on Moloch, like a lot of people, it seems. No, I don’t think the community’s for me. But a reactionary community of shitposts, while cathartic, also isn’t actually “nutritious”. Any blogs to recommend? Does everyone here just read source material (i.e. books)? Any books to recommend? I need my bite size thought provoking reading fix, and ssc is still the best I’ve found so far.

u/PMMeYourJerkyRecipes 31 points at 1563247818.000000

That’s not really what this subreddit is for - it’s called /r/SneerClub because it’s for sneering, not writing high-effort posts.

Here’s a left-leaning rationailist-ish reading list I copied from somewhere a while back, with my own recommendations highlighted:

  • Media Manipulation & Disinformation Online, by Alice Marwick and Rebecca Lewis
  • Alternative Influence, by Rebecca Lewis
  • The Authoritarians, by Bob Altemeyer
  • Eclipse of Reason, by Max Horkheimer
  • Civility in the Digital Age, by Andrea Weckerle
  • The Origins of Totalitarianism, by Hannah Arendt
  • On Revolution, by Hannah Arendt
  • Don’t Think of an Elephant, by George Lakoff
  • The Shock Doctrine, by Naomi Klein
  • How Propaganda Works, by Jason Stanley
  • This is an Uprising, by Mark and Paul Engler
  • Neoreaction a Basilisk, by Elizabeth Sandifer
  • This Nonviolent Stuff’ll Get You Killed, by Charles E. Cobb, Jr. 
  • Mistakes Were Made (But Not By Me), by Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson
  • Healing from Hate, by Michael Kimmel
  • The Brainwashing of my Dad, doc by Jen Senko
  • On Bullshit, by Harry Frankfurt
  • The Reactionary Mind, by Corey Robin
  • Stamped from the Beginning, Ibram X. Kendi
  • Fascism Today, by Shane Burley
  • Indoctrination over Objectivity?, by Marrissa S. Ballard
  • Ur-Fascism, by Umberto Eco
  • Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents, by Lindsay C. Gibson
  • Anti-Semite and Jew, by Jean-Paul Sartre
  • Alt-America, by David Neiwert
  • The Dictator’s Handbook, by Bruce Bueno de Mesquita & Alastair Smith
  • Terror, Love, and Brainwashing, by Alexandra Stein
  • Kaputt, by Curzio Malaparte
  • The Anatomy of Fascism, by Robert O. Paxton
  • Neoliberalism and the Far Right, by Neil Davidson and Richard Saull
  • Trolls Just Want to Have Fun, by Erin E. Buckels, et al
  • The Entrepreneurial State, by Mariana Mazzucato

It’s got a few holes (ie - no Chomsky, not much theory, no economics at all) and there’s an over-focus on attacking RWers instead of making LW arguments, but it’s a good starting point.

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u/Soyweiser 18 points at 1563271558.000000
If you want to understand why participating in the culture war threads is bad, and so much of it is simply stupid bullshit, I'd also suggest reading 'trust me im lying, confessions of a media manipulator' it isn't meaty at all tbh. But it just describes a simple pattern which outrage merchants and media manipulators use a lot. (And, if you read between the lines it also shows how you can manipulate stuff like wikipedia's 'only post stuff if it was on reputable news sites' policy very easy).
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u/aptmnt_ 8 points at 1563249649.000000
Thanks. Yeah I’d especially like to focus more on the making good lw arguments side, rather than attacking rw, but this kind of recommendation is exactly what I was looking for.
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u/FunctionPlastic 7 points at 1563269836.000000
Seconding neoreaction: a basilisk, idk why OP didn't highlight that one. I think it's obviously the one you'd be most interested in as it talks about rationalists directly (Eliezer is one of the three main figures, with the other two being Nick Land and Mencius Moldbug, it also mentions Scott). I also recommend Mark Fisher (Cap. Realism) and Michael Heinrich (Intro to Marx's...), and also disregarding the rest of his boomer american leftoid list
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u/G0ldunDrak0n 4 points at 1563303411.000000
Heavily seconding Capitalist Realism.
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u/dgerard 29 points at 1563263655.000000

It turns out almost nobody is here to do homework

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u/DELETED 0 points at 1563414749.000000
Fun not allowed. This is a serious sub now.
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u/mister_accismus 16 points at 1563306360.000000

a reactionary community

first of all, how dare you

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u/zhezhijian 20 points at 1563247624.000000

Perhaps what you need is not the nutrition of insight porn, but that of developing a sense of humor.

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u/aptmnt_ 1 points at 1563250809.000000
Already hopeless there, I'm afraid. Consider me humorless and lost, just looking for somewhere to discuss ideas without snark. Where do you go when you're actually being earnest?
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u/DELETED 12 points at 1563251882.000000
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u/Lonewolfeslayer 4 points at 1563264773.000000
I'm trying to navigate the page and I feel lost. Any help?
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u/DELETED 2 points at 1563321594.000000
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u/brokenAmmonite 8 points at 1563281210.000000

just read the war nerd

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u/muns4colleg 7 points at 1563284925.000000
First post I see is him giving the media shit for pearl clutching over the use of stimulant drugs by ISIS fighters while our culture is practically swimming in the stuff. I like this guy.
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u/brokenAmmonite 7 points at 1563299936.000000
ya i love his stuff, it's a *kisses fingers* blend of misanthropy and understanding of the human condition that link is some of his old articles, more recently he's switched to a [podcast](https://www.patreon.com/radiowarnerd/posts), which is excellent and super underrated (there's a couple of free episodes in there somewhere)
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u/AlexCoventry 7 points at 1563294998.000000

Naked Capitalism

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u/MarxBroshevik 18 points at 1563246735.000000

Karl Marx - Capital Vol. 1-3

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u/noactuallyitspoptart 1 points at 1563255486.000000

Fuck off.

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u/aptmnt_ 3 points at 1563255606.000000
Guess you’ll ban me if you mean it?
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u/noactuallyitspoptart 9 points at 1563255938.000000
>Guess you'll ban me if you mean it
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u/yemwez 11 points at 1563270988.000000
-Person who got banned
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u/noactuallyitspoptart 13 points at 1563271200.000000
honestly not giving them the satisfaction, personally
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u/DELETED 3 points at 1563247010.000000

Here’s a reading list that was assembled by Sneertizens (that’s what we call ourselves) from the last Sneer Club general interest thread:

  • People magazine

  • Gawker

  • Under Currents by Nora Roberts

  • Star Magazine

  • Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson (this is a fantasy one, like with knights and wizards and stuff, but I hear it’s good)

  • The Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself by Michael Singer

  • US weekly

  • The complete Atkins diet guide by Sandra Baker

  • You are a Badass: how to stop doubting your greatness and start living an awesome life by Jen Sincero

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u/finfinfin 22 points at 1563263692.000000
> Sneertizens I do not consent to this.
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u/DELETED 14 points at 1563263785.000000
We agreed to it at the last Sneercheon (Sneer luncheon)
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u/finfinfin 18 points at 1563263885.000000
Please Stop
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u/dgerard 16 points at 1563270979.000000
Snop
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u/DELETED 21 points at 1563265487.000000
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u/finfinfin 11 points at 1563267889.000000
Spend less on truck-kun.
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u/DELETED 7 points at 1563268067.000000
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u/finfinfin 6 points at 1563268364.000000
money is such a corrupt bastards tool that all i can do about thinking about it is to simply laugh about it...
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u/DELETED 3 points at 1563291716.000000
smh at people downvoting you just for making a good-faith reply.
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u/Jeep-Eep 1 points at 1564191049.000000

I’ve got some ideas for some things about the cottage industry that has grown about superlative futurology, of which MIRI is just one example of.

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