The dismantling of “heritability” at 39:00 was in particular well
done. I remember way back reading a rationalist tumblr person claim that
HBD was “indisputably correct” because IQ is heritable and thats “all
they needed to know”.
Another claim I saw a bunch was that genetic IQ differences must be
nonzero due to genetic drift, so obviously a bunch of the gap is
genetic! As if “nonzero” genetic gap couldn’t be 0.1 points or
0.0000000001 points favoured in either direction.
If you scratch at any HBD argument hard enough, you are gonna find, somewhere at the bottom at a fundamental level, the assumption that racism is over and ended in the 1970's or something.
And then they'll use those same arguments as evidence that racism is over, or in some cases that it should be brought back. It's all circular reasoning masquerading as "rationality"
Yup, a disturbing number of people think the civil rights movement ended racism and thus any remaining gaps between racial groups in the West is because of innate differences and not, y'know, generational poverty and the lingering lag of prejudice.
> As if "nonzero" genetic gap couldn't be 0.1 points or 0.0000000001 points favoured in either direction.
This is the best part. The statistical argument for HBD is nonsense, so you can almost always talk them down to the claim that while there may be "racial" differences in intelligence in some categorization, they're probably small, no more than a fraction of a fraction of a point.
But you'll never get them to entertain the idea that that fraction of a fraction of a point might put white people below, say, black people. You can get them to squash their proposed racial hierarchy down to minute differences, down far within their margins of error, but they won't ever reverse any of their orderings.
Almost, almost as if it was never about the data that they don't understand in the first place.
"all they needed to know"
Meaning:
"All they ever wanted
All they ever needed"
Being only rational without any ethics is challenging as is.
I do get the impression that rationalists tend to stop reasoning when they arrive at their preplanned conclusion though.
I haven’t watched the video yet, but before I do I feel like I should
reccomend this video as well. From a YouTuber that posted two high
quality videos dealing with right wing academic bullshit and then…
apparently stopped existing.
https://youtu.be/GgZFGgJlAsk
If Im hankering for a really exciting evening Ill watch both videos
parallel and see where they line up.
Why not? Same, better shit than watching the news or most movies. Fall asleep to it a few nights in a row with f.lux on deck, yeaaaaa baby, wake up Wednesday a new poster freshly ready to shred the racists. can I get a yeah
I'd watch most movies over this any day, but I appreciate breadtube delving into the hours-long youtube videos so it's not populated with just MauLer and Sargon.
I'm not gonna watch it either way though.
Nah, clearly you are not the target audience, I wonder if Shaun tailored his vids for a certain type of alt-right seduced viewer. (Aka, just the type who would watch a 2 hour long vid of the white supremacist Taylor dude droning on about non-white 'culture' (the 'culture comes from the genes!' part is not said out loud that often, else the game would be up) being bad, or just anybody who watched the longer Jordan Peterson lectures).
Which is fine to not be the target audience, be happy about that. (At least your yt recommends are not horrible).
Try drinking some cough syrup, it's basically Houston chopped and screwed talk radio. If you get enough you can read and hold a conversation with your lamp at the same time, at lower levels of functioning with the divided minds obviously. High iqs only.
i'm kinda the opposite, i can watch hbomb and philotube and contra, but all the set pieces and narrative elements and lynchian absurdity and (especially!) the fucking musical numbers get on my nerves. so i like shaun, three arrows, and cuck philosophy the most. i kinda see em like audioarticles
I think very few people sit down and intently watch this kind of content, they put it on in the background while they are travelling to work, doing chores at home, playing videogames, etc.
There's a debunking Ancient Aliens that's just as long and great as well. You can put it on in the background if you're good at paying attention to two things at once.
You are going to have to explain this one.
I for one cant wait for your 'if you think about it, the anti-lesswrongers are the real racists' take.
Unless im misreading what you mean with 'here' of course.
Lesswrongers are often very racist, no doubt. The people here are racist too, and not just the fake "anti-white" racist type either. Check out /r/sneersneerclub for examples.
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god it feels good to have an interminably long video to throw at people instead of having that done to me
The dismantling of “heritability” at 39:00 was in particular well done. I remember way back reading a rationalist tumblr person claim that HBD was “indisputably correct” because IQ is heritable and thats “all they needed to know”.
Another claim I saw a bunch was that genetic IQ differences must be nonzero due to genetic drift, so obviously a bunch of the gap is genetic! As if “nonzero” genetic gap couldn’t be 0.1 points or 0.0000000001 points favoured in either direction.
I haven’t watched the video yet, but before I do I feel like I should reccomend this video as well. From a YouTuber that posted two high quality videos dealing with right wing academic bullshit and then… apparently stopped existing.
https://youtu.be/GgZFGgJlAsk
If Im hankering for a really exciting evening Ill watch both videos parallel and see where they line up.
Good stuff! Wow, that was a huge amount of work.
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Let’s debunk the racists here next.