They’re discussing my post in modmail because I civilly and perfectly well argued that maybe it’s acceptable to blow up federal buildings with large truck bombs. killing large numbers of people including women and small children. Even in a hypothetical somewhat abstract argument, that’s going to raise some eyebrows.

low decouplers, amiright?

A few Red Tribe responded by killing 168 people. I used to think that was a fundamentally monstrous response, but now I’m reconsidering.

Hmm. Reconsidering domestic terrorism. For a motte such as this, what’s the bailey, huh?

Anyway, not the first time I’ve seen a post on the internet with the tell-tale signs of right wing radicalization.

I love the attempt to reduce everything to “red tribe” and “blue tribe”. Because economically screwed over black protesters and the mayors ordering them to be tear gassed have so much in common!

You know it’s bad when their political models would be improved by introducing them to the political compass.

These people are not our countrymen. They hate us, and they mean us harm, and we are fools to try to help them when their plans backfire. They will not thank us, and their hatred will not soften. They will simply use the energy freed up by our assistance to work more ruin on us.

Pains me that my immediate response was “right back at you, buddy”

I’ve been out of the rationalist circle for quite a while. I thought by ‘blue tribe’ they meant the police, so I read the first couple of sentences and thought to myself ‘hey, this is a pretty good take. Why is this in sneerclub?’

Then I scrolled down

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/gueibb/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_june_01_2020/fsj38nx/

You missed this gem. No mod action despite multiple reports.

I’ve recently been reading Viktor Frankl’s Man’s Search for Meaning, which is an account of his time in a Nazi concentration camp.

What really struck me was his ability to humanise his oppressors. While he was, of course, subject to endless abuses by innumerable moral monsters, he is always careful to avoid treating entire groups as ‘bad’ (in one striking episode he tells of one particular SS guard who was always regarded as ‘one of the good ones’ being sheltered by jewish prisoners after the liberation of the camps). Likewise, after his time in the Soviet gulag Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote that “the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being.”

So it’s really something that this person seems able to regard 50% of his own country – including, presumably, people that he interacts with perfectly pleasantly every day – as irredeemable monsters.

These people are not our countrymen. They hate us, and they mean us harm, and we are fools to try to help them when their plans backfire. They will not thank us, and their hatred will not soften. They will simply use the energy freed up by our assistance to work more ruin on us.

Are these people taking the ‘tribe’ metaphor that seriously? Like, they realise that ‘blue tribe’ and ‘red tribe’ aren’t actually a real thing, right? Having two vaguely-correlated-clusters of beliefs that people buy into to a greater or lesser extent is very different to this military fantasy where everyone gets assigned a colour and it’s all-out-war between two ‘teams’.

If you really “don’t want to play by the rules” I will point out that we already had this fight and your side lost.

2 points†

lol they mad

blue tribe elites

What? Those people are mostly silent, this is a genuine protest of poor black people, and the poor black people are not blie tribe elites.

Totally not racist to imagine the protests are actually led by the blue tribe elites…

The blue tribe elites are in fact part of the problem. Has any democrat started walking with the blm movement? Nope. Has any univeristy leader declared unilateral support? Not that i heard off. The journalists most seem shocked ‘they are also beating us, but we are press!!’. Blue tribe elites prffff. (Yes i get it is some sort of 34D chess argument, which is silly, as the blue tribe couldnt even defeat trump).

Ow god he considers the fbi blue tribe… because of waco.

Yeah, it’s way too based for a bunch of limp-wristed rationalist poindexters. He should have known better

Im starting to think there has been a bit to much interest in themotte from the fasc.

Unrelated, if i had posted that post i would potentially be in trouble, glorifying terrorism isnt exactly legal iirc.

posted by a mod

And as the old joke goes; If some rando shows up to your range day talking about blowing up a church or a federal building, you should probably shoot him. He’s either an enemy of the people or an FBI agent and in either case you tell the county sheriff that it was a ND.

What the fuck.

At least the mods know they have a problem, but in that same post you also see why it never will be fixed, seeing the problem and then going ‘lets metalevel this problem’ will not solve shit and will just allow it to fester. (There is a good analogy to be made with this and the liberals way of fighting racism)

And because so many are going ‘if only the protesters were non-violent, trump doesn’t have to call the national guard’. Don’t forget stuff like this. (There also was the nonviolent occupy protests which obama send the national guard after as well)

I will say I’m happy to see someone reminding this idiot that we tried this before and his side lost. All the Civil War 2.0 LARPers should spend more time studying what happened in the first one.

Countdown to an r/the_mottald spree shooter?

I’ve been sitting checking these threads too, and Jesus, they are so full of shit. That group is well on it’s way from becoming “spectics” of the SJW movement to MAGA conspiracy nuts