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I'm not dismissing that racism is responsible for the racial disparity in STEM, but the more likely cause is the influence of cool jocks in high school, because one can't play sports and do well in school at the same time. PS if you think racism is the reason you're the real racist (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23520356)
posted on June 14, 2020 11:11 PM by u/sue_me_please
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u/TheGreenMouse77 39 points at 1592188038.000000

 “I disagree - many inner-city youths are into super-expensive sneakers (00 and up), golden chains and other status symbols dictated by the social environment they grow up in.”

I can count the number of black people this person knows on one hand.

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u/DELETED 20 points at 1592191557.000000
You’re probably using one hand too many
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u/mehperson 8 points at 1592191799.000000
Nah, you'd have to amputate yourself.
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u/MarxBroshevik 29 points at 1592192573.000000

Most Rationalists are jocks as far as I can tell. They don’t like to read, they get mad when you correct them about things (roid rage?), and they likely play jock videogames like Call Of Duty instead of nerdy videogames like Hidden Agenda and Kula World.

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u/awwwwhat 17 points at 1592205243.000000
A true communist nerd would play Dwarf Fortress
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u/Soyweiser 5 points at 1592223637.000000
DF is great. Also, it when thinking about it, weirdly maoist communist. Landlords get killed, creation of capitalist system fails, bootstrapping of economies from nothing (with often horrible results if tapping into rivers/lava) is the great leap forward etc.
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u/awwwwhat 7 points at 1592229341.000000
It's literally "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need"
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u/Soyweiser 4 points at 1592231599.000000
Ow god in indeed
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u/FistfullOfCrows 2 points at 1592387492.000000
> Most Rationalists are jocks as far as I can tell. > and they likely play jock videogames like Call Of Duty LMAO, WHAT?
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u/warsie 1 points at 1592731395.000000
COD is a bit of a bro-y game like how Halo was and, really most FPS games are. I guess fighting games also
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u/sue_me_please 21 points at 1592176585.000000

The most charitable reading of this is that the poster doesn’t mind blaming children for their lack of education or aspirations, but I can’t help but lol at yet another analysis that needs to take shot at those damn jocks. Very reminiscent of Scott

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u/awwwwhat 20 points at 1592202415.000000

So this whole tribe thing is really just about never getting over high school huh

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u/oneLguy 5 points at 1592241620.000000
*Ding ding ding* we have a winner!
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u/Pantone711 36 points at 1592177764.000000

The jocks in my high school WERE the smart kids. Same in college. Knew some very smart jocks who were pre-med etc. We have a Kansas City Chief who’s a doctor.

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u/Soyweiser 5 points at 1592223858.000000
Vin Diesel who is pretty much a 'Jock' is also a huge nerd who regularly plays dnd. (And is most famous for two series, one in which he plays out a weird dnd campaign, started from a one shot game, and another where he plays a criminal car mechanic (which isn't really something not nerdy tbh, tinkering with vehicles). The whole jock/nerd distinction is so weird. I don't think our high school had jocks tbh. We def had nerds who played Magic the gathering, but that included some cool kids (some of whom even played warhammer)
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u/wiskey_tango_foxtrot 10 points at 1592187160.000000
[May I introduce you to John Urshel?](https://math.mit.edu/~urschel/)
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u/Pantone711 3 points at 1592198929.000000
Wow! Impressed!
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u/Wun_Weg_Wun_Dar__Wun 4 points at 1592345509.000000
This. Is this whole 'dumb jock' stereotype an American thing? Or is it just a thing of the past and the average 'rationalist dude' is actually a lot older than I think and they still think high school works like it did in the 80s? We're living in an age where getting into college is getting harder and harder. I graduated only a few years ago, and already most of my school's sports teams were filled with kids trying to get into Medicine. Plenty of wannabe biochemists and chemists as well (I know cuz I was one of them). Though to be honest that could be it - rationalists seem to have a serious disrespect for biology, and at least in my school sports was mostly something bio nerds did. I kind of wish we would do a survey to find out what proportion of the intellectual dark web actually has any biological training - I wouldn't be surprised if the answer was somewhere south of 10%, despite the way they seem to love explaining away complex social phenomenons with 'genetics'.
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u/Pantone711 2 points at 1592347760.000000
I blame Archie comix (Big Moose) Maybe a lot of those 80's high school movies too
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u/warsie 1 points at 1592731466.000000
I'm not sure but didn't tbe SSC survey showed most people were in computer science?
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u/AliveJesseJames 2 points at 1592371199.000000
Yup, I'm fairly old (by Reddit standards) and even then, half my AP classes were people playing sports and the cheerleaders.
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u/rnykal 13 points at 1592204011.000000

imagine spelling out in great detail exactly how systemic societal forces push black kids into certain harder to get into and more dangerous professions and white kids into more reliable safe ones and concluding that there is therefore no reason to think any racism is afoot

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u/Soyweiser 5 points at 1592223565.000000

Just to be clear, I am not denying that racism exists. I would however like to point out that the people who keep blaming everything to racism are the ones who are actually subliminally racists.

Or, you know, people who fight racism are aware of this, and are also aware that racists are using this as a shield to deny racism exists. (This is the BLM, ‘no acchtually ALM’ kneejerk reaction all over again).

I disagree - many inner-city youths are into super-expensive sneakers (00 and up), golden chains and other status symbols dictated by the social environment they grow up in.

[citation needed]

E: also that soccer example hit me right in the dutch pride. And i dont even like soccer.

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