posted on August 14, 2020 03:56 AM by
u/PmMeClassicMemes
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u/SaiyanPrinceAbubu52 pointsat 1597384934.000000
Let’s take an opposite example, and let’s say FTSOA that we lived in
a society exactly like ours demographically, except basketball was the
only source of social status and power.
> Good lord why are they like this
Because they are in the contrarian radical centrist free speech advocate to neonazi pipeline. It all starts with a fascination for 'things you are not allowed to know/say' contrarianism.
This is why charitably, steelmaning, civility and such are all inherently bad. Politics is war, and you'd think these people would at least understand that idea since their neoreactionary compatriots sometimes say things like *"Politics is war."*, but I guess it's only war when you're killing poor people and owning the libs as opposed to mildly critiquing tech nerds on the internet.
Nobody is confused about who the other sides are, even when they use incorrect language to describe them. Not even conservatives who thrive off disinformation, because they are aware on some level that it is disinformation that they base their worldview on.
Or Lebron’s. Sports stars do get *power from popularity* already, just like actors, artists, influencers and socialites do, the current system over-rewards(? is that a word) popularity.
In the 60s and 70s they took a break from being irredeemably evil to
make some pretty good music and fuck up the sexual dynamics for everyone
who would be born after them.
That post is s*o fucking weird*. The evil "they" being referred to are described as:
>smart, rational, forward thinking people, with high IQs and prestigious degrees
which apparently refers to, in turn throughout history, eugenicists, fascists, communists, feminists??, rock musicians??? (i guess?), hedge fund managers, and now internet blackpillers. Extremely coherent philosphies going on in here.
And in the case that, God forbid, some people there start discussing
Jewish Question (as it happens at times in non-Jew-dominated places)…
well, you know how it goes. (Is anyone under the impression that we’re
not monitored by a certain sub, too? Or that reddit won’t adopt this new
definition of anti-semitism, where merely saying “well acktchually the
composition of owners allows to state more or less correctly that Jews,
being majority, do control…” is bannable? I’m serious, that’s the
specific attack surface I worry about).
So they're really worried about the ability to discuss "the jewish question", which is what exactly? How many fit in a railroad car and how fast you can murder them?
wow guys wow. Really shielding that power level.
This is so nuts, in a lot of 'not jew dominated places' (whatever that nebulous term means) going 'JC', will get you into trouble because people know that is neonazi shit. It is also counter historical.
This is just all crazy conspiratorial neonazi thinking. It also is super weird considering, iirc, scott alex is jewish.
Well, I learned something new! Mea culpa. I just slotted "attack surface" in the same category as the rationalist use of "OODA loop" or other terms gained from a hobbyist's reading of military science.
Lol that anti semitic post (yes your post can be antisemitic without
being intended as antisemitic dear motte poster, and saying ‘im not a
racist’ just shows your butt) is nuts. (And has a nice big logical flaw
in it (the ‘you would expect other groups to also show up every now and
then’ thing). But the reactions of the mod (speaking not as a mod) will
make it a riot. Time for the Nth themotte civil war.
So during the covid crisis themotte lets all their masks fall off.
Every flavour of far right neonazism seems to be represented, I wonder
if I can spot a qanon one, or a neonazi magick one. (All pretty boring
stuff if you have ever looked into extremists places btw, the lol is
that they are all in themotte and now realizing that they are a slightly
different tribe of neonazi/far right).
Actually, I don’t care. What I care about is the fact that Bubba in
Appalachia and Jonny the electrician are accused of harboring
institutional power by Haberman in Sulzberger’s paper, when it’s
actually Haberman and Sulzberger who possess the most extreme amount of
institutional power.
These guys are SO CLOSE to realizing that the thing they should be
worrying about is not the particular details of how power is
centralized, but the base fact that Bubba and Jonny have no
institutional power. Income correlates with
voting turnout; average citizens have almost
no influence on policy compared to rich people and business-backed
groups. If you actually cared about poor Appalachians or whatever, you
would be trying to give them their fair share rather than complaining
that the tiny group of rich and powerful people isn’t demographically
representative.
The whole thread is also a tidy example of Americans blaming the
media for all the world’s problems. Can’t criticize the perfect system
of checks and balances you learned about in school. Can’t criticize the
voters; “deplorables”, etc. Therefore, it must be the media telling all
these people to do the wrong things.
It’s amazing how quickly this goes from weaselly but run-of-the-mill
“we shouldn’t be allowed to say super antisemitic things, but
we should be allowed to say some antisemitic things” blather
to:
Non-Jewish White people do not have significant institutional power
in America.
Imagine a world in which people could recognize that X ethnic group
has a disproportionately high presence in Y industry without following
up that thought with something awful.
Good lord why are they like this
the history knower has revealed himself at last
They’re on to us.
Lol that anti semitic post (yes your post can be antisemitic without being intended as antisemitic dear motte poster, and saying ‘im not a racist’ just shows your butt) is nuts. (And has a nice big logical flaw in it (the ‘you would expect other groups to also show up every now and then’ thing). But the reactions of the mod (speaking not as a mod) will make it a riot. Time for the Nth themotte civil war.
So during the covid crisis themotte lets all their masks fall off. Every flavour of far right neonazism seems to be represented, I wonder if I can spot a qanon one, or a neonazi magick one. (All pretty boring stuff if you have ever looked into extremists places btw, the lol is that they are all in themotte and now realizing that they are a slightly different tribe of neonazi/far right).
These guys are SO CLOSE to realizing that the thing they should be worrying about is not the particular details of how power is centralized, but the base fact that Bubba and Jonny have no institutional power. Income correlates with voting turnout; average citizens have almost no influence on policy compared to rich people and business-backed groups. If you actually cared about poor Appalachians or whatever, you would be trying to give them their fair share rather than complaining that the tiny group of rich and powerful people isn’t demographically representative.
The whole thread is also a tidy example of Americans blaming the media for all the world’s problems. Can’t criticize the perfect system of checks and balances you learned about in school. Can’t criticize the voters; “deplorables”, etc. Therefore, it must be the media telling all these people to do the wrong things.
It’s amazing how quickly this goes from weaselly but run-of-the-mill “we shouldn’t be allowed to say super antisemitic things, but we should be allowed to say some antisemitic things” blather to:
Imagine a world in which people could recognize that X ethnic group has a disproportionately high presence in Y industry without following up that thought with something awful.
how do they reconcile this belief with the fact that Scott Alexander is Jewish?
…how do I report a post to the admins?
not that I expect anything to happen but paper trails are hilarious.