posted on November 17, 2020 06:54 PM by
u/HoopyFreud
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Music, art, literature, film, these things are all like alcohol.
They’re fun to indulge in every once and a while, and they feel good,
but one certainly does not live life for them and maintain health.
I’m sure they’re very fun at parties
Higher education should be for a few, the rest can go into the labor
market as soon as they’re physically fit.
Most of these people never volunteer themselves to be the ones on the lower caste lmao "Higher education should be for a few, like me, the rest, who are not me, can go into the labor market as soon as they're physically fit"
Although, I'm pretty sure I've seen someone really argue that they should be one of the unprivileged ones to benefit the class of ubermensch. I'm not sure which is really more dangerous or delusional
> go into the labor market as soon as they're physically fit
lmao, I'm all for strengthening apprenticeships and stopping Universities from becoming a glorified job training program but this sounds like some 19th century shit.
Like we have this enormous demand of pickaxe wielding coal miners.
You are correct here. Tolerating him while not even pointing out the multitide of pretty simple logical errors he makes btw. (Which is no suprise, this seems like the kind of person who is totally convinced they are right)
E: it is funny that he basically agrees with the Taliban.
>it is funny that he basically agrees with the Taliban
I wonder how much of The Motte basically agrees with the Taliban vs. the general population. Even vs. the general population of 20-40 y.o. white American males (also, how much of The Motte are these? What does Bayes say about it?).
The reasoning was that if you don't lock women back into the house ( which would require a lot of push via policies. I thought these people hated big government) then they won't have 4 children and the only way to raise children is for mom to stay at home and don't do anything else , clearly this is the only way children can be raised! (Maybe if the woman is especially clever she can have a maid or something , we are not sure.
>Maybe if the woman is especially clever she can have a maid or something, we are not sure.
Especially Aryan feeemales will be allowed out on Thursdays provided they don't do anything hypergamous like driving motor vehicles or mocking the size/shape/function of my penis. Incidentally all cars will be Tesla™s and we will defund and dismantle the trains.
Too much effort to be a troll. All the more frightening considering
he posts shit like this:
What does it follow that the world should look like based on my
descriptive and normative beliefs? At the core I’d put eugenics, by
which I simply mean the betterment of the gene pool […] In practice,
what would I do right now if I had absolute power in the US? I don’t
know for sure, but all anti-white, anti-merit policies would end.
There’d probably be IQ favoring tax incentives. Eugenic immigration
only. Every race in the country would be gradually improved like this,
but I descriptively believe that white people would become 90+% of the
population in a few generations.
What should actually be moved towards in the reality of 2020? We have
to stop the dysgenics […] Right now we have less intelligent people
coming into the US replacing a more intelligent population (whites). We
have them outbreeding the intelligent. This is true on a racial and
class scale. Both need to stop.
I support heavily restricted, selective, generally or all white
immigration. I support an end to affirmative action. I support monogamy.
Etc. All these things are the practical things that are pretty much
inside the Overton, if not to the right. Welfare reform is another huge
one. We have to quit paying people to reproduce. People on welfare
should get some sort of punishment for having a ton of kids on it.
It's absolutely wild how many conservatives in the United States think that we are currently "paying people" for having kids. Is he talking about TANF, where (assuming you live in poverty) the state of Texas gives you a whopping $318 dollars per child?
It's like, politicians may as well not be afraid to create a generous welfare state and hand out checks to people for being poor, since the Right is going to claim that they're doing that anyway, regardless of reality.
Except that, just as with racism, being accused of doing the thing is somehow worse than actually doing the thing, so that will actually stop them every time (looking at you, new Representative from Florida).
>Is he talking about TANF, where (assuming you live in poverty) the state of Texas gives you a whopping $318 dollars per child?
In a libertarian society such a scheme would not exist because every man would own 10,000 children in a purpose-built basement. Such is the logical outcome of my thought experiment.
Sadly, he actually has a response to that ("It's not just about maximizing IQ, its about other more intangible qualities").
This shitty community guides its members 99% of the way to the Fourteen Words, and then clutches its pearls and mock disgust when people take that final logical step.
Holy fuck the amount of times the quoted tries to equate race with IQ and "merit".
Do these people never ever question their so-called Bayesian priors?
They hold that these things make people “happier.” I disagree
descriptively, but even if these things made people happier, it doesn’t
matter to me.
One wonders: Is he an actual psychopath as he appears to
admit here? Or does he just have to pretend to be one, because that’s
the only world in which his logic, morality, and general worldview could
conceivably make sense?
I decided to torture myself with that tread a bit. My conclusion is
that besides the misogyny, these people have “I am an american who
didn’t check how other places have responded to certain problems”
syndrome. What is with the fetishism of housewives? ” smart women can’t
have both carieer and child :/, so we shouldn’t encourage them to pursue
higher education. Okay maybe if the underclass is incentivised to be
maids” If only affordable childcare and workplace protection for new
parents was a thing. Unfortunately it has been never implement ever,
anywhere on Earth /s
Also possibly a Sneerclub troll, considering how much other
inflammatory opinions he’s posted.
Sneerclub troll, or honest themotte poster, you decide. (I think
Jiro_T is [partially] right here btw, anybody who posts
CultureWarNerdBait like this
looks trolling to me (E: and needing to post this and not being able to
figure this out yourself clearly makes you low IQ and a prime saltmine
candidate, sorry much_joke, you are the weakest link, goodbye)).
E: lol now 18 hours later they removed their comment because we are
laughing at him. But of course people are still convinced that this
person is actually one of the sneerclubbers. Such Rational. Much
evidence.
They should thank us, we provide such an easy out for the cognitive
dissonance between ‘we are a good community’ and ‘lotta people here are
open fascists’, all the open fascists are not real themotte posters,
they are all sneerclubbers!
Eh, seems too realistic, down to being extremely long winded. My money on it being a sincere nutjob.
There are instances of doing this tongue in cheek, like HistoryDave on shit wehraboos say but they always include some giveaway, or add something that's funny, or have some twist to another take.
edit: also going back to first posts, seems genuine.
Basically Poe's law in action. In fact a corollary of Poe's law IMO, if trolling and sincerity cannot be distinguished in a community, then that community is shit and deserves to be ridiculed.
They've discovered our agent provocateur. We've instructed agent to burn communique and deploy the denial script. This message will self-destruct in 5 seconds.
Well, you see, you start with the conclusion that everything about the current system that benefits you or indicates that you're superior to everyone else must be true and good, and you work backward from there.
So, after this guy got a two-month ban from theMotte, he went over to
the other place to complain on the other place about people suggesting
to him that feelings might matter sometimes:
Banned from the other place, was going to post this but now I can’t.
Maybe you all might enjoy it.
Nonsense that Sounds Good : How to Mature the
Discourse
I’ve recently gotten involved in a few discussions under my other top
level post I made today wherein I’m finally trying to figure out what
annoys me so much about some comments. My leading hypothesis is that
they’re comments that are meant to refer to the feeling of a certain
emotion, using words superficially associated with whatever I was
talking about, essentially smearing the latter object.
…
Let’s do it sentence by sentence.
Google “bedside manner”.
A command, not a claim.
Not every outcome is just patient mortality/morbidity - there’s the
patient’s emotional well being, their family’s well being, etc.
“Emotional well being” exists. Okay.
Can you look at a dying child and their sobbing parents and tell them
that no, it won’t be alright without emotionally destroying them?
A question that invokes very sad imagery :(. But no claim about
whether or not something causes a alot of sadness, or is morally wrong,
or whatever.
And, being the World’s Smartest Boy, he just can’t hold himself back
from telling everyone that he knows better than everyone.
[You mentioned above that you consider yourself a logical positivist.
I’d encourage you to read about why the verification principle is
essentially dead in academic philosophy. Quine and Sellars, among many
others,] laid it conclusively to rest.
Ha, you just had to slip in the “conclusively” bit didn’t you.
Well, I conclusively disagree. Academic philosophy is a bit of a
joke; they just can’t handle logical positivism anymore.
If you think that it was low-quality discourse, then I propose that
the fault lies with you for failing to comprehend their point,
especially after claiming to do a line by line analysis.
My reading comprehension skills are 99.9th
percentile. The fault is with the writer, and I clearly
demonstrated that the writing was sloppy and vague.
I’m trying to be careful what I comment in case reading comprehender
over here can glean my unconscious thoughts/fetishes/astrological
sign.
>Google "bedside manner"
Holy fuck, he needs to. I suppose he could make a decent anaesthetist if nothing else. Although I'd be concerned if he played any role in euthanasia.
I’m sure they’re very fun at parties
He can’t wait to join the salt mines
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A representative sample of the replies:
Ah, yes! Such reasonableness! Very rational discussion. This is how you Marketplace of Ideas.
The correct response to crap like this is to stick your tongue out, close your lips around it, and exhale, making a “PPPBBBBBBBBBBTHS” sound.
Ohh and the poster is yet another IQ fetishist. How many times does that junk need to be debunked?
Too much effort to be a troll. All the more frightening considering he posts shit like this:
One wonders: Is he an actual psychopath as he appears to admit here? Or does he just have to pretend to be one, because that’s the only world in which his logic, morality, and general worldview could conceivably make sense?
I decided to torture myself with that tread a bit. My conclusion is that besides the misogyny, these people have “I am an american who didn’t check how other places have responded to certain problems” syndrome. What is with the fetishism of housewives? ” smart women can’t have both carieer and child :/, so we shouldn’t encourage them to pursue higher education. Okay maybe if the underclass is incentivised to be maids” If only affordable childcare and workplace protection for new parents was a thing. Unfortunately it has been never implement ever, anywhere on Earth /s
I suppose just the opposite of every value underlying your post there, dude.
Sneerclub troll, or honest themotte poster, you decide. (I think Jiro_T is [partially] right here btw, anybody who posts CultureWarNerdBait like this looks trolling to me (E: and needing to post this and not being able to figure this out yourself clearly makes you low IQ and a prime saltmine candidate, sorry much_joke, you are the weakest link, goodbye)).
E: lol now 18 hours later they removed their comment because we are laughing at him. But of course people are still convinced that this person is actually one of the sneerclubbers. Such Rational. Much evidence.
They should thank us, we provide such an easy out for the cognitive dissonance between ‘we are a good community’ and ‘lotta people here are open fascists’, all the open fascists are not real themotte posters, they are all sneerclubbers!
E2: lol, casually setting up comparisons where themotte is black people, and sneerclub is white nationalists, classy Jiro_t
Genuinely where do these people get their ideas about how the world works?
So, after this guy got a two-month ban from theMotte, he went over to the other place to complain on the other place about people suggesting to him that feelings might matter sometimes:
And, being the World’s Smartest Boy, he just can’t hold himself back from telling everyone that he knows better than everyone.
I’m trying to be careful what I comment in case reading comprehender over here can glean my unconscious thoughts/fetishes/astrological sign.
Comment is gone now. Why delete it if you’re proud of what you said?