All of these lines are just window dressing so you’re not to think
they’re only talking about vaccines, but they’re only talking about
vaccines. Who wants to put money that aella is vaccinated?
I love out minimum wage (i.e. a restriction of contractual autonomy)
and the exclusion of unvaccinated people from jobs and stores (i.e. the
very result of contractual autonomy) are somehow both terrible vulnera
to her idea of freedom.
At this point they are not even following first principle down the
rabbithole of nonsense, because that would mean they are at least
consistent. They are just alt right trolls who play the evergreen
“achkually if you were really leftist you would be a fascist” with
bigger words. Not a surprise after all, she learnt from the “I’m so
liberal that I can’t help loving incels, rapists and racists” SA
No, that's exactly my point. If you are in that framework, you should cheer vaccination requirements, which so far are 100% imposed by private businesses on their property, Some libertarians even noticed the irony of Republicans trying to prevent businesses from imposing such obligations on customers and employees, after a lifetime spent to defend the freedom to discriminate
oh i haven't seen any vaccination requirements around me, so i was thinking in the hypothetical. good point, that *is* pretty ironic, just like "right to work" laws
What a weird status. She seems to [imply](https://mobile.twitter.com/Aella_Girl/status/1424552626033549315) that having a bundle of tutors sharing a building (e.g. reinventing private schools) would still be superior to school, but it is not clear how having bundled tutors in one building would ameliorate the problems [she](https://mobile.twitter.com/Aella_Girl/status/1144429627328229377) [lists](https://mobile.twitter.com/Aella_Girl/status/1424590594173652998).
Like, I would even grant that individualised learning via tutors might be better for the average student than schools, but (a) I doubt there's enough manpower for that to scale and (b) I think that once tutors start being assigned more than one student and start educating them in the same place, you will pretty much have the exact same problems she outlines.
I saw that. Apparently, she's basing her opinion on having been to school for three months at the age of 14 after being sequestered from the secular world for the majority of her life.
No, her reading is clearly this:
There are (in her mind) droves of people who want to work in hypothetical jobs that pay below the minimum wage, but because minimum wage laws exist, they cannot take those jobs, and are instead **forced** to get different, higher paying jobs that are legally compliant.
The fact that the person experiencing this dilemma cannot "make their own choice" (of having a job that pays below minimum wage) and yet possesses a body which would have performed said job, therefore means that interpreting a slogan in the most bad-faith way possible, through the medium of greentext on twitter, is apparently the epitome of rationalist thought.
I'm quite certain it's this, Idk if you're from the US but from what I see in the political discourse, there have been big discussions about the minimum wage (=should it be raised).
So it made sense to me that "supporting minimum wage" meant "the current minimum wage". I'll agree it's not good communication.
No, this is almost certainly not correct. Talking about "minimum wage" with no other qualifications, particularly talking about "supporting" or "not supporting" minimum wage, is a super standard libertarian talking point. Particularly, it's one that I'm fairly sure Aella has mentioned in past tweets. She's definitely posted quite a bit of libertarian flavored "I have total contempt for poor people", so this interpretation of yours conflicts with her prior tweets.
But then she's also against giving money to suicide watch? Surely she can't be THAT bad?
I mean I dont know her but I cant imagine someone would be against all this
I see you've never heard of Aella before. Glad you could get introduced on relatively minor stakes. The "my body, my choice" as it pertains to suicide here is her saying "if you really believed in bodily autonomy, you wouldn't support suicide prevention organizations".
yeah but this isn't a 'current political discourse' tweet, she's literally talking about stuff like suicide prevention
pretty sure she just means supporting the minimum wage in general, like the idea of there being a minimum amount of wage
I read it in the context of the right libertarian laissez-faire market ideologies that are popular with Rationalists™. Hence "supporting minimum wage" means either supporting it's existence or supporting raising it.
I think that's a fair interpretation of the words regardless of the context, but the context adds to it.
The standard argument for people of Aella’s political persuasion is that the minimum wage or increases thereof are an imposition on both employers and employees which would be better dealt with by letting the market organically set wage rates at an ideal level set by that market
My source is I’m a philosopher/historian of economics
It's just a bit funny that the "organic" functions of the "market" include employers doing everything they can to leverage power over employees to reduce their pay, but the moment any employee tries anything to leverage *their* value it's socialism, they're to be deprived of their job, and we may need to call the police to stop them.
Bug, you don’t understand, if workers (“employees”) leverage literally any tool they are provided by the legal system which supports the market capitalist (“neoliberal”) system, *they’re being disruptive*, and they should be *happy* that even the vaguest and most compromised democratic levers available to them exist and *should not use them because they’re just nice things to have*.
Like chrysanthemums.
Do you realized that if the minimum wage was indexed to productivity that it would be some ~23$ an hour? Please take your tongue off that boot in here.
Dude, I'm as far left as you can find. I'm literally for forbidding millionaires and raising the min. wage to as high as possible. Where did I defend otherwise?
But it's not minimum wages that are forcing you to work, it's a society that doesn't afford basic living as a right independent of labour.
Minimum wage is simply a bandaid to ensure that so long as you do work you will have some basic living standard.
You can be for minimum wage and for other means of ensuring basic living.
twitter is 90% someone imagining a guy, etc.
>“my body, my choice”
>supports excluding people with explosive diarrhea from public pools
>wants doctors to be forced to wash their hands before performing surgery
>bans people with salmonella from working in food service
>protests indentured servitude
>‘what about the children who consent?’
lmao of course aella agrees with antivax loons
All of these lines are just window dressing so you’re not to think they’re only talking about vaccines, but they’re only talking about vaccines. Who wants to put money that aella is vaccinated?
‘My body my choice’
Breathes out air which others eventually breathe in.
“My body, my choice.” Ah! Yet you don’t support slavery. Curious!
I love out minimum wage (i.e. a restriction of contractual autonomy) and the exclusion of unvaccinated people from jobs and stores (i.e. the very result of contractual autonomy) are somehow both terrible vulnera to her idea of freedom.
At this point they are not even following first principle down the rabbithole of nonsense, because that would mean they are at least consistent. They are just alt right trolls who play the evergreen “achkually if you were really leftist you would be a fascist” with bigger words. Not a surprise after all, she learnt from the “I’m so liberal that I can’t help loving incels, rapists and racists” SA
‘my business, my choice’
Not going to make another aella topic because we already had 2 this week. But I saw this and I want others to suffer as well.
The concept is that minimum wages forces you to work all your life or starve, so you’re basically a wage slave.
(In before I get downvoted for explaining what the author meant)
Edit: called it lol
Edit2: Apparently I might have read that the completely opposite way