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Is this regarded as sneer worthy? (https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/x1e3te/is_this_regarded_as_sneer_worthy/)
posted on August 30, 2022 09:03 AM by u/teknokratikal
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Came across this from a guy definitely IDW adjacent. Seems like the typical ‘oh no, the world is screwed and it’s the young kids that are to blame with their silly ideas about fairness and desire not to be exploited!’. A bit different to the general rationalist bashing we get here, so I hope people enjoy the chance to get stuck into a different type of stupidity. Sorry in advance if this isn’t the kind of thing you want on the reddit.

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https://theelectricagora.com/2022/08/28/angry-people/

u/VersletenZetel 18 points at 1661852636.000000

At cursory glance, this dude follows a lot of the UK transphobes, Ditum, Jackson, Brunskel-evans, Bindel…

But I don’t see a lot of rationalism? Unless Jayman is the HDB Jayman?

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u/noactuallyitspoptart 15 points at 1661881122.000000

This ONE TIME I will allow it, because I can’t stand that specific guy (who is, as it happens, a very angry guy), and also, you know, the initials

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u/AprilSpektra 13 points at 1661882758.000000

and a significant swing from a customer-centered business model to an employee-centered one, especially in service and retail.

Oh yeah, sure dude, FedEx treats that call center worker you were arguing with too well, that must be what it is.

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u/DELETED 16 points at 1661914514.000000
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u/AprilSpektra 11 points at 1661914615.000000
He's angry that he can't bully a minimum wage worker into giving him what he wants. It's so funny because what he wants is entirely reasonable - it absolutely is a bullshit charge, and FedEx is a notoriously garbage service. But he thinks the solution to this is that he should be able to bully the people with no power to do anything about it.
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u/DELETED 12 points at 1661915611.000000
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u/AprilSpektra 10 points at 1661916652.000000
Yeah it's abundantly clear that he's entirely disconnected from not only the experience of being a wage worker but even just any reasonable overview of the system we live in if he thinks that businesses have been moving in a pro-employee direction by any metric at all during his lifetime. He might as well be describing Narnia. It really is a trip seeing people describe the state of the world entirely in terms of their personal grievances.
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u/maroon_sweater 6 points at 1661918016.000000
Sense of disconnect from reality, certainly, but not Narnia...Maybe...No, I'm thinking Bronze Age Greece... Our hero faces an arduous and tempestuous homecoming journey (his flight is delayed). All his companions are brutally eaten alive or lost to the whims of the gods (his luggage got put on the wrong trolley). He must navigate deftly between two vicious monsters ("the airplane pretzel lady who deserves to be screamed at, for justice" and "being arrested for screaming at her"). There's got to be a Nobody/Can I speak to your manager joke here somewhere, the lotus eaters are the people who play on their screens instead of being ANGRY AT THE AIRLINES FOR JUSTICE, and he briefly visits the underworld (he used to work a retail job himself). In place of Xenia, of course, we have the duty of the minimum wage employee to Customer Service Ethos, and the triumphant climax is our hero punching through robomenu after robomenu and screaming at EVERY human on the other end. Athena remains the same; she routinely appears to him to tell him that he is absolutely right. He is the only one who can see her. Fuck, I'm a genius.
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u/Soyweiser 7 points at 1662048685.000000
Wait, this guy called dozens of times and expected the 12++ time to go different? Either [he is insane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKMMCPeiQoc), or he is getting something else out of shouting at min wage workers. Makes you wonder if he rants on the phone like he does on the blog.
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u/DELETED 6 points at 1662115736.000000
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u/Soyweiser 3 points at 1662131480.000000
Well you don't know some people are just very nice on the phone. Like [Jordan Belforts father for example](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuw2GKiMFgQ).
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u/blakestaceyprime 12 points at 1661896708.000000

“The Electric Agora: a modern symposium for the digital age” is pompous enough that I would have invented it in college, so I think it deserves at least one (1) sneer.

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u/vertebralsilence 10 points at 1661917891.000000
"The Electric Agora" also sounds like a banger of an I Want song in Big Yud: The Musical
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u/philosopheratwork 6 points at 1661937600.000000
Pity it doesn’t scan to “Funky Town” because that would nail the tone.
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u/antichain 11 points at 1661913642.000000

Somehow the author seems to be arguing both that:

  1. Everyone is angrier and people are being more and more savage to service workers AND

  2. Service workers are coddled little snowflakes who are being bubble-wrapped by their employers.

I don’t see how both could possibly be true. It’s almost like they are unironically arguing “the beatings will continue until moral improves.” Only an idiot of the highest caliber could possibly believe this will somehow end well for them.

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u/philosopheratwork 4 points at 1661937698.000000
I would think a philosopher would be a bit more careful with the explain/excuse distinction, but what do I know.
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u/Otherwise-Anxiety-58 9 points at 1661914198.000000

Ah, the good old days, when people would dress up for air travel! We have lost so much.

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u/den_the_terran 9 points at 1662006239.000000

Does not appear to be rationalist, but I lost it at this part:

Show any anger towards or even just raise your voice to an airport clerk or steward, and you may very well be dragged off by the police. If you think this is hyperbole, I was threatened with this twice…

This entire post is the most Karen/Boomer thing I have ever read.

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u/DELETED 8 points at 1661916583.000000

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u/AprilSpektra 14 points at 1661917156.000000
The first decade of my adult life was spent working in various food service and retail jobs, and I worked in a few different, let's say, *types of neighborhoods*, and there's something uniquely narcissistic about upper-middle-class people specifically. Because here's the thing: genuinely rich customers never got mad at me. They're going to get what they want, and they know it, and the moment they realize they're not going to get it from me, I stop existing for them. They move on. But upper-middle-class people feel all that entitlement but without the power to casually drift through all institutional barriers. And they get *so mad about it*. And in their eyes, *I personally* am the only thing standing between them and whatever it is they want. I'm not saying that rich people are better. Objectively, systemically, they're the absolute worst. But you will never suffer more personal abuse and bullying than from an upper-middle-class person who isn't as powerful as they're trying to appear to be, and deep down knows it.
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u/teknokratikal 4 points at 1662055832.000000

“We’ve created unprecedentedly unrealistic expectations for young people
and those starting out in the economy, while at the same time telling
those buying the products and services to just suck it up and eat shit.
This will not last.”

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What unrealistic expectations? Most young people I know expect to never own their home or be financially solvent enough to start a family. Most expect no pension or retirement. I suspect that the unrealistic expectations are among the dumb old boomers that still think it’s 1950.

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u/teknokratikal 4 points at 1661970276.000000

I guess in his day low wage jobs were temporary work for nice white,
middle class teenagers before they went to college. He sees their gripes
as complaining about pocket money. He really does need to get out more.
Every low wage job I see
now has very little young kids in it. Often young adults trying to
start a life, a lot of immigrants, and an increasing number of the
elderly who have to work till they drop due to no social safety net. 
Yeah… why would these people want to unionize and
not accept their exploitation with grace!

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