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      Not just black people either, my mom heard my brother and I call each other that (we’re white) and boxed our ears. I was like 5 years old so this was around 1979. She explained to us what racism was and why it’s wrong to say that. I haven’t used that word since.

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        Rappers don’t use that word, they use a word that sounds similar but has an entirely different meaning. You must be new to the world if you think they mean the same thing.

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          Poor Righteous Teachers (often shortened to PRT), were a pro-black hip-hop group active from the late ‘80s to early 2000s, founded by the rapper Wise Intelligent, backup vocalist Culture Freedom and producer Father Shaheed (deceased in 2014).

          https://genius.com/Poor-righteous-teachers-conscious-style-lyrics

          There’s niggas is lacking over there, niggas is lacking over here Some niggas is dying over here, and niggas is dying over there

          You’re right - it’s niggas! Heureka, finally a safe N-word to use.

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          Maybe Hogan used that word instead of the N-word and the transcript is just wrong. Maybe they were close friends.

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          You should have explained to your mom you were using “niggas”, as in he sense of brother or close friend.

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            Are you really this stupid? First of all that isn’t the word we were using, and I wouldn’t have tried to weasel out of deserved punishment at any rate. The lessons my mom taught me made me the man I am today and I cherish every one of them.

            If you can’t understand that the context changes depending on who is saying it, how they are saying it, and the intent behind saying it- I feel sorry for you.

            Feel free to remain ignorant or racist or whatever your issue is though, you do you.

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              You made the distinction between the N-word and the word that rappers use (without naming it so I am still at a guess but I try to follow your argumentation).

              So if you used the N-word, you deserve punishment, correct.

              But that shows me you wanted to be bad and evil, which, again, legitimates the punishment and using the legitimate word in that situation would be weasling out, correct.

              So I conclude your intent was to be an asshole by using the N-word. Thanks for clearing that up. I was not personally available in your private situation you lived through, so I am maybe missing some details.

              Now could you name me the available not-N-word you spoke of, because that would interest me.

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                  No, it’s not important to me and I would not use it. For me color of skin is not important. What happens however is other people use words, then people react to it, 40 years later, and we all have a discussion about that word, so of course I have to address the word.

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                    Why do you “have” to address it? I’ll quote you from another post

                    Finally a safe n-word to use

                    Why is being able to use a slur without repercussion so important to you?

                    Edited to add the words “without repercussion” as of course you’re free to use the word, it’s the repercussion that’s the issue.

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        I’m not doing this anymore. This is not the nineties anymore, and there is no way even the whitest motherfucker alive is putting that argument forward in good faith.

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          These are the words of black motherfuckers from that aera, see my post below about PRT. If that word is still used nowadays by black motherfuckers is homework for you; I don’t care as they would get the pass of “but theeey may use it, white motherfuckers don’t”, which is also racist, but in todays time, not 40 years ago and we all should have evolved in the meantime.

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            “but theeey may use it, white motherfuckers don’t”

            You can use it all you want. You’ll just be telling people you are a racist piece of shit. Which, let’s be honest, you seem to be. So everything works out in the end.

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              Honestly, I again am lost. Where have I acted as a racist? People really seem to misinterpret me. (waiting for “no, we are not misinterpreting you, you are just a racist asshole yadda yadda”).

              Again: I don’t care about color, black, green, blue, white, purple. I don’t care. Treat everyone the same, done. It’s much easier anyway.

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                Oh we’ve reached the “purple” stage of the debate. We are now officially in the late nineties.

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                  Let me ask you, do you have anything to add besides judging snipping etc. Do you have arguments we can talk about?

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                    Do you? You are behaving like the racist uncle from a nineties sitcom and demand people turn back the clock three decades to pander to your bad faith drivel.

                    We’ve done this. Thirty years ago.

                    Go read slashdot posts on archive dot org if that’s the level of discourse you crave on the topic.