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      Yeah there was absolutely no need to include unfounded racist shit about “DEI hires” but it seems to be some sort of rule in 4chan that you have to be a bigoted fucknut in order to post

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    Damn, if they had PII in a public bucket like that it’s criminally negligent. Well, at least it should be but I’m no lawyer

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    Uh… What’s the tea app?

    Edit: from what I can gather based on the last link attached to this post it seems to be some kind of app for women to talk about men they’ve dated. Why that needs drivers license uploads is a whole other question and definitely should have raised some massive red flags for anyone thinking about using it.

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      “talk”

      They try to get a pass on this by saying it’s about “safety” and reporting creeps. But it’s filled with women posting dudes and gossip. It gives me the same vibes as those sites back in the day that were shut down because they were essentially revenge porn sites. Same shit different form.

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        Yes, trying to warn other women about a man you dated who abused you or gave off weird vibes is definitely the same as getting your nudes or porn video of yourself leaked against your will onto the public internet for everyone to see

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          Yea cause that’s what these sites totally were doing.

          Everyone knows what these places were. 4chan are fucking scumbags but so are the people using these gossip sites. They’re both cut from the same cloth

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      The drivers license thing is likely due to a law passed by the UK a few days ago requires all mature content to be behind an age check. And not a “Are you 18: Yes / No”, more like “we will check using ID and photos of you”.

      It’s the most hated piece of legislation in a while, with already 100 000 petition votes in 3 days to repeal it.

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        None of the driver licenses shown in the screenshot are UK style.

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          No idea why they were collecting identification then.

          Even worse, since the hackers got a bunch of the data at once, the company must have held onto those pictures long after they registered people to their service, which they likely didn’t need to do.

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      The app required ID uploads ostensibly to verify that you were a woman signing up, men were not allowed to join for obvious reasons

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        Aside from the fact that it was stored in a public database, there’s no need to store photos of the IDs at all. The account can just be marked as verified and move on.

        Also I doubt that measure would keep a man out if he really wanted to join…

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    So like, when do we get a government-run service to issue zero-knowledge proofs about us so companies have no reason to store stuff like this in the first place?

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      Oh aye, I am the #1 government truster, they should “not record” where I visit and should be trusted to ignore my internet history

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        If I had to choose between a government and a private entity to store my personal governmental records (e.g. age and name), I’d 100% choose the government first.

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          easy to say, but that depends entirely on the government and company doesn’t it?

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            Any government already has all of that information, so, no.

            By giving it to a company, you just increase the risks of info leakage.

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              I assume OP actually meant the additional info the government can get from where I authenticate with my goverment ID to a company.

              Hypothecial situation: You wanna buy a sex toy.
              If the goverment does store where and what you buy, they could punish you by withholding services.
              And they might not say why and give a bs excuse or send you on a goose hunt to do more paperwork.
              You can suspect that but probably never proof that it was the case.

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            As always life is complicated.
            I am talking about my personal situation.

            ^(Do I really need to put a disclaimer to all posts, that mentions all comments are from my own view and might no apply to every situation in every country?)

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          In turkey, the government stores data words than the company. I can be doxxed just by giving you hints of which city I live in. It’s bad

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        They wouldn’t see what sites you give the tokens to — unless those sites choose to phone home, for some reason.

        • You log in to the government site
        • You ask for a token to prove your age/gender/whatever
        • You copy the token
        • You go to the age/gender-restricted site
        • You provide the token
        • The restricted site asks the government site how to verify any arbitrary token (but doesn’t mention your specific token)
        • The restricted site verifies the token
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        ??? This is just textbook sso/openid but backed by the government. There’s nothing intrinsically insecure about having third parties send you directly to a trusted government site for authorization.

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            What connection do you think a third party is saving when using openid? Generally speaking the only thing the third party needs is your identifier which in most cases is just an email. It’s no more devastating for the user base for that information to be leaked than it is when they’re handling authorization themselves. I personally think using a government backed authorization platform is a terrible idea and something completely liable to be abused by those in power, but it would objectively be better than trying to have every single service store your personally identifiable information themselves.

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        The only entity able to connect you in this case is the identity verification third party. The premise is that a government-backed identification system is more secure than a rando private company.

        Private company asks government “hey is this user real and unique”, government replies “yes”. Private webiste does not need to know your ID. No identifying element needs to be transmitted by the government.

        Of course some private companies will need more, and in that case the user, you, can grant them access to data, much like the current authentication systems using Google accounts & co.

        In which case the flow would be:

        • Rando insecure company asks government “is this user real and unique? I need their name”
        • Government website asks you “this rando company wants to know your name”
        • You accept
        • Goverbment replies to rando insecure conpany “yes, user real, name is X”

        That’s how it should be.

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      I mean it’s even in the app name that it’s not about protecting women and keeping them safe, it’s literally about “spilling the tea” aka gossip. It’s pretty gross and can be used for nonconsenual sharing of images and even slander too since there’s no way to know if what someone is writing on there about someone is true or not.

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    I can’t wait till I read a similar article about porn sites; especially one where the doxxed individuals are politicians.

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      I mean, we kinda already ended up there with the Ashley Madison hack in 2015. Problems with that site aside, I feel like it’s kinda the blueprint for everything wrong with companies that retain personally identifable info on folks. If a company collects details like your driver’s license, it’s not a question of if it gets out but when. There’s just no way to collect that sort of data and truly keep it safe.

      But, it seems like we’ve kinda forgotten how to learn lessons in the modern day, so I’m sure this was an isolated issue and we’ll never see it’s like again.

      (/s on that last part, just in case that wasn’t blindingly obvious.)

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    Woah, I just got an ad for this today, and was intrigued enough to see what their monetization model was (in app purchases/subscriptions for “pro” features) and took a big pass on it.

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    Friendly reminder that some services do need your ID otherwise they cannot help you or at least they need to very you (accountants, notaries, etc)

    edit: I can´t do your tax report if I 1 don´t identify you and 2 I don’t have the social security for which I need to do the report

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    A public S3 bucket? Whoever used the app should start a class action lawsuit, this is beyond misconduct.

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      Imagine the other gaping security holes in this thing if storing all the data on a public s3 bucket flew under the radar until after release.

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    Horrible practices by this app yes still can’t help but feel anon seems to think he is a hacker for writing a python script to scrape a public database. Also scold app devs for not dealing with sensitive information carefully, release them in the most vile online platform possible so you can boast about your average python scripting skills?

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        Not to me, yes the app sucks, yes the use case of the app also sucks, yes devs are either super green or even mostly AI (these have been discussed extensively and I agree with all).

        But can’t commend public release of such sensitive data in such a place. You can still bury this app and the company without compromising people’s sensitive data. Makes for less of a show and less opportunity to boast but yea.

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          yes devs are either super green or even mostly AI

          Solely blaming the devs tells me you have no experience with Firebase security

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            No I don’t but if the firebase sucks isn’t it devs job to be knowing this? They might have warned their supervisors and simply disregarded, that is also another possibility in which case the blame obviously goes to higher up not the devs.

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      That’s exactly what hacking is.

      '90s hacking movies may have given you a different idea of what cybersecurity looks like, but this is what the real world is like

      Also, Google deserves a scolding here. Firebase’s default configuration is absolutely atrocious. One of the few critical vulnerabilities I’ve seen where the system is working as intended. Dubbed the hospital gown vuknerability because they leave the backend wide open by default

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        Firebase’s default configuration

        I’m going to get on my grumpy old man soapbox. I understand making things idiot proof for end users. End users are idiots. But do we have to make things super safe for developers now too? Do we want to add a warning to rm so we don’t accidentally remove the wrong directory?

        Any developer who doesn’t know to check permissions and accessibility on their database deserves to have their AI vibe coding bot taken away.

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        I mean this is just writing a script to access a public database, this is not even exploiting a code vulnerability. So there is an area between digital number waterfalls on the screen and accessing a public database which I would consider more of hacking.