Not arguing with your choice (props actually, I respect the switch) but it is possible to get a legit grey market key for w11 Pro for a lot less. I think I got mine for $20-30 in early 2024?
Edit: I should have noticed I was in the Linux group before I posted that, I thought I was still in the gaming one I guess! Not advocating windows to anyone, it’s a terrible OS. But some people might need it for some things so I figured I’d share information that might help someone save a bit of money if they did. (Yes, there are other ways around that.)
I don’t doubt it, but do you happen to have a source?
The only plus side I guess is I only use that computer for a bit of gaming and not for anything else, and i did manage to turn of automatic updates before they AI-ified everything. If I had more time and energy in my day I’d dual boot it, maybe some day.
And then you have to continously fight it because it switches your default browser to edge or starts showing you ads out of the blue or record your screen every second or whatever the fuck those greedy bastards think of doing next…
Noooo fucking thanks, I switched to Pop for a year now and I’m not going back ever.
Even with Windows Enterprise, I don’t trust Microsoft to not spy on me and fuck with my control over the machine. If it weren’t for that, I wouldn’t be planning on switching over to Arch SteamOS Desktop when it releases.
I’ve used Enterprise IoT for a while, which is supposed to be the cleanest possible build of Windows (except for the Chinese government special one) and that STILL somehow managed to introduce ads after updates, reset settings, force me to use the GameBar, and so on.
Yup. Just last night, my machine decided to reboot itself without permission. I want to do updates on my timetable - that means backing up my passwords and bookmarks, figuring out what third-party things I want to update like my GPU, and preparations. Being forced to update also makes me feel extremely distrustful of MS, especially since they plan on having AI to take pictures of our activities. I enjoy LOTS of hentai, and feel that it is likely for MS to give the Trump Regime dirt on people.
I’ve never needed to activate windows on any of my computers since I just prefer Linux. But the gray market seems scary to me with the possibility of the key coming from a stolen card victim’s wallet.
Is there any reason a non-dirty key would be available on the market? Does Microsoft do promotions or deals like that?
A ton of them apparently come from regional pricing, or from keys purchased by businesses. Windows offers volume licensing where you can buy bulk keys at a steep discount, basically. The business might not use all of them, and then they turn around and resell them. That’s technically against the terms of the license, but afaik Microsoft has never bothered to enforce that.
I’ve also heard people will take the Windows keys off of older OEM towers and resell them. I have no idea how true that is, but it would also be against their terms.
It’s not exactly likely, but Microsoft could probably just deactivate all of those keys at once if they decided to.
Those are good questions that I don’t have the answers to. Although from the research I did at the time it seems most likely they were purchased with regional pricing in a lower price region.
I switched to Linux so I could spend $200 more on actual hardware for my build.
Not arguing with your choice (props actually, I respect the switch) but it is possible to get a legit grey market key for w11 Pro for a lot less. I think I got mine for $20-30 in early 2024?
Edit: I should have noticed I was in the Linux group before I posted that, I thought I was still in the gaming one I guess! Not advocating windows to anyone, it’s a terrible OS. But some people might need it for some things so I figured I’d share information that might help someone save a bit of money if they did. (Yes, there are other ways around that.)
Yeah but Microsoft is making money off your data.
I don’t doubt it, but do you happen to have a source?
The only plus side I guess is I only use that computer for a bit of gaming and not for anything else, and i did manage to turn of automatic updates before they AI-ified everything. If I had more time and energy in my day I’d dual boot it, maybe some day.
So you’ve decided unpatched security flaws is better than learning a superior OS? I’m not much for gambling.
No, I just haven’t had the time and energy to do something better. Happens when you’re approaching middle age and have health problems.
Sorry to hear that.
And then you have to continously fight it because it switches your default browser to edge or starts showing you ads out of the blue or record your screen every second or whatever the fuck those greedy bastards think of doing next…
Noooo fucking thanks, I switched to Pop for a year now and I’m not going back ever.
Even with Windows Enterprise, I don’t trust Microsoft to not spy on me and fuck with my control over the machine. If it weren’t for that, I wouldn’t be planning on switching over to Arch SteamOS Desktop when it releases.
I’ve used Enterprise IoT for a while, which is supposed to be the cleanest possible build of Windows (except for the Chinese government special one) and that STILL somehow managed to introduce ads after updates, reset settings, force me to use the GameBar, and so on.
Yup. Just last night, my machine decided to reboot itself without permission. I want to do updates on my timetable - that means backing up my passwords and bookmarks, figuring out what third-party things I want to update like my GPU, and preparations. Being forced to update also makes me feel extremely distrustful of MS, especially since they plan on having AI to take pictures of our activities. I enjoy LOTS of hentai, and feel that it is likely for MS to give the Trump Regime dirt on people.
I’d rather buy a high end noctua fan for my CPU then spend $30 on a windows license. Although I have bought those in the past.
I’ve never needed to activate windows on any of my computers since I just prefer Linux. But the gray market seems scary to me with the possibility of the key coming from a stolen card victim’s wallet.
Is there any reason a non-dirty key would be available on the market? Does Microsoft do promotions or deals like that?
A ton of them apparently come from regional pricing, or from keys purchased by businesses. Windows offers volume licensing where you can buy bulk keys at a steep discount, basically. The business might not use all of them, and then they turn around and resell them. That’s technically against the terms of the license, but afaik Microsoft has never bothered to enforce that.
I’ve also heard people will take the Windows keys off of older OEM towers and resell them. I have no idea how true that is, but it would also be against their terms.
It’s not exactly likely, but Microsoft could probably just deactivate all of those keys at once if they decided to.
Those are good questions that I don’t have the answers to. Although from the research I did at the time it seems most likely they were purchased with regional pricing in a lower price region.
You aren’t taking anything from anyone. It’s just an algorithmically generated activation.
This is so easy it’s kinda nuts, and there are multiple methods to activate. All you should need for Windows these days.
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