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It’ll be especially dangerous since they’re gonna have slashed tires so often.
A lentil placed under the cap is a more efficient method of disarmament.
Depends on the end goal. Those 18" tires on most trucks aren’t cheap, especially if you have to swap one out every few months
I suppose. It takes bringing a knife though, which is less convenient than a lentil
I always have a pocket knife on me. Why are you carrying around beans?
To be clear, I have not disarmed any vehicles, so I don’t carry any lentils
Pebbles work too
I would rather see a slashed tyre than a slow leak - you cant very well drive on a slashed tyre, but a slow leak just may cause someone’s death that just happens to be in the wrong place
Sorry, what? A lentil like the bean? How does that ruin a tire?
Placed under the valve cap, it will press on the valve and let the air out, leading to a flat tyre.
Ahh, ok. So flattens it, not quite ruins it. Gotcha. BRB gonna go prank the roommate
You place it between the valve and valve cap so the air slowly leaks out
Using scissors/wire cutters on the stem, or just stomping on the stem if it’s on the lower half of the wheel at the time, works too, but isn’t as expensive to fix as the tire.
we can only hope
Maybe burning the trucks will help with the tyre thing? It’s a long shot but I think it should be tried…
Yeah, no thanks.
lol and that’s one of the smaller truck models you’ll see in the states 🫠
Good luck dealing with the shitheads who buy these. They’ll whine and cry about not having space, x, y, z… I am surprised none of the EU brands have a popular small truck. Closest thing appeared to be Ford Rangers.
Time to slice some tires…
Well, they can always get a cart attached to the back of their car.
Much lower costs, fewer energy costs, and so on. And removable.
Lower cars also have the benefit of actually being easily to get into. And they’re safer for the car driver, too.
Well naturally. I’m a truck owner and I have no idea why you’d opt into on over there… hell if I could find a decent car or wagon that had a 7pin and could tow 4-5k I’d be about it. Closest are Subies but towing with a CVT … Ehhh.
Yep a real full size truck you could probably take that car and put it in it its bed. With room to spare.
Yes, no tanks.
Why have they caved? These vehicles aren’t appropriate here.
As someone from the US, they’re mostly not appropriate here either. They rarely get used for anything except driving to/from work. They are more like massive uneconomical vans with four luxury seats rather than work trucks (again, when they nearly always have a driver and no passengers).
That being said, my fiancé lives in the Philippines (Specifically in Manila, the most densely populated city on the planet), and every time I visit it’s clear the same stupid oversized trucks are everywhere and I doubt anywhere in the EU will be different.
Just like requiring seatbelts to be a rule, you need to put rules in place so the idiots don’t destroy everything, that’s pretty much advanced modern society.
Yeah there are a fuckton of “real men” in Europe, influenced by the firehose of toxic culture coming from the US. I agree 100%, governments need to prevent selfish idiots from endangering others with their bad choices.
I agree. Rangers and Amaroks and a few others are everywhere. But CTs are an especially stupid step up.
Those ‘real men’ are showing how tiny their dicks and how fragile their egos actually are.
REAL men bike, show off their muscles, and are kind on the road. Dare to show some kindness to everyone, and that is the true manship.
Pavement princesses.
They probably figured that they can sell trucks but nobody is obligated to buy them. The taxes are on weight and prices for fuel are not compatible with gas guzzlers. The really heavy ones need a different driving license. Also in places the tax exemption for cargo didn’t work anymore.
Man I sure do love when people with money can pay to inconvenience everyone else
these vehicles arent appropriate anywhere. the EU caved because it’s not sovereign, it does as it’s told.
EU works for lobbies. Not Europeans.
Examples?
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These vehicles are not really made for European infrastructure. Especially in older Cities or towns they are sometimes wider than the road itself. I guess it would be fine if people would have to have a C-Class license.
But have you considered bulldozing all the historic architecture to accommodate American manufacturers’ god given right to sell product?
Knowing what lurks underneath old cities the demand for archeologist would absolutely skyrocket.
Great job creation prospects.
And then we get to queue in cars to get coffee. So convenient.
It’s just wins all around
RAM pick ups are not type-approved to be sold on the EU market, but are imported under IVA, ostensibly to be sold on a one-off or ‘individual’ basis. Already, the IVA rule, intended for niche uses, is being roundly abused by German and Dutch Type Approval entities, which approve 69% and 30% of RAMs respectively, said T&E. Imports of three other pick-up trucks – the Ford F-150, the Chevrolet Silverado and the GMC Sierra 1500 – have skyrocketed from 157 in 2019 to approx 1,700 in 2024 [1].
The EU Commission’s proposals to close the IVA loophole tabled in early July are now at risk from an EU-US trade pact which states that the EU and US “intend to accept and provide mutual recognition to each other’s standards” for cars.
And to compete our domestic car industries will probably start making similar models :/
As these vehicles aren’t officially sold in EU by their brands, they don’t enter the pollution calculation of their average fleet. I doubt that they will produce even more similar models adapted to and for the EU market.
Solicit your vehicle taxing authorities to raise taxes on these huge vehicles so it’s cost prohibitive.
Hopefully insurance will be prohibitively expensive as well where there so dangerous.
In the netherlands road tax is paid depending on the weight of the vehicle (and some more factors). Also, a standard drivers license B is for cars with maximum weight 3500kg (unladen weight plus payload).
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what in the flying fuck
Why would any auto manufacturer make cars under European safety standards any more if this goes through?
@Sunshine make them undrivable.
We are already in a situation where they have to stop in the village centers to let people move out of the way for the extra wide load. I do not move. I don’t think anyone should
In Europe those over the top insane-looking american “trucks” need heavy goods vehicle license, plus even if it’s light enough for the regular license, it’s still classified as a cargo vehicle which is subject for more tax (either yearly tax or sometimes even road usage tax). People can already buy new “trucks” (even Volkswagen makes one) and import old ones from the US for a long time, but extra tax is not something most want to pay.
The ‘empty’ weight of a Ford F-350 is a bit above 3 tons, so in theory, one could register those with a maximum total mass of 3499 kg and drive them with a regular ‘car’ class B drivers licence.
The smaller F-150 is totally in the range of what can be driven with a class B drivers licence without tricks.
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Up to member states means they probably won’t do it, since it’s a matter of national politics and popularity…
So as I understand this - which seems to be totally at odds with everyone else commenting - this will actually make it harder for people to drive these things on the road in the EU. Currently you can import those things without them being subject to EU categorisation and safety requirements if it’s a one off (to quote Not Stanley, “I ain’t no serial killer! I killed a bunch of people but they were all one-offs!”) but now these will be categorised and controlled the same as EU vehicles instead, and subject to the same standards for safety, emissions, licensing etc. It’s worth keeping in mind that even in the US these aren’t categorised as cars, so why would they be in the EU? So someone with a car license (normally limited to 3.5T GLW) couldn’t drive one, even if they pinky-swore that they wouldn’t fully load it as is the case at the moment.
The EU has different licenses for cars and trucks? Cool!
I’ve always found it weird that a standard license here lets you drive anything from a teeny tiny SmartCar to an F350 pulling a massive palace-in-wheels, or a near bus-sized motorhome (provided it doesn’t have air brakes and is under 4600kg).
Wait. Are you telling me that the American “if you can parallel park, here’s your driver license” license allows you to legally drive trucks and other heavy machinery?
Not “trucks” as in a commercial transport truck (often called “rigs” to differentiate), but a large pickup-truck pulling a fairly massive travel-trailer or 5th wheel, yes.
See here for a reference on the various options, most of which are drivable under a standard license. The big difference tends to be when you get into things with air brakes, which requires a special endorsement or the truly huge sizes. Most of the restrictions are based on the towing/hauling or hitch capacity of the vehicle pulling them though, as opposed to the license of the driver
https://www.rv.com/rv/rv-classes-explained/
Also, this is in Canada but my understanding is that the US is much the same
Well, people first need to want to buy these things. When they realize they are unable to park those things properly, due to our infrasturcture not being made for them, they will return them back.
People in the NL already buy them, despite there being no way to park them.
You need like 10 idiots in a million-large city and you can already feel it have a negative effect on traffic.
The people who buy this will feel fantastic about parking them like assholes in a way that it bothers people.
Unfortunately, no, you give people too much credit. It’s a status symbol to assholes, and assholes beget assholes. People need to treat them like Teslas were during the DOGE debacle.
Or they park in the most obnoxious places. I once saw a father waiting to pick up his kid in one, with 2 wheels on the pavement and his engine idling. This was in the eu and it had a typical macho pickup configuration: all black, spotless, tinted windows. I’d prefer it if those dickheads continued driving bmw’s instead of pickups, much less annoying when they’re tailgating you.
hopefully also when people treat them and their stupid big vehicles appropriately like shit
People will buy it despite infrastructure not being built for it. And they they will demand that the infrastructure accommodates them. And then they will build new infrastructure taking them into account. And then they’ll rebuild the old infrastructure to accommodate them.
There are idiots in Europe too. There are oversized American trucks in Europe too. And they too occupy 4 parking slots if they are European sized instead of America sized.
I cannot think of anything else the EU could have done to damage it’s own brand image as this has. It’s clear the EU has it’s own oligarch problem.
