• ComfortableRaspberry@feddit.org
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    Spouse comes from a family believing in this shit. They have a go to doctor for regular health issues (that one seems to be okay) and one for the bad issues (that’s the fraud).

    I’m sick for > 5 years now so I’m at the stage where I try everything if it doesn’t seem to kill me so about 3 years ago I went to see him.

    It was wild (quantum physics are easy to use and he heals his grandchildren in Africa regularly, pendulums and quartz stones were used, he shoved me around a few times, …) and in the end he explained that I’m suffering from worms that can’t be detected with school medicine tests. His treatment was as follows:

    • No alcohol and caffeine for two weeks so he can remotely undo my corona vaccine
    • Taking a few drops of his medicine daily so he can remotely attack the worms through this

    The whole session was expensive as fuck and I had some very long talks with my spouse about this afterwards. He stopped giving money to this guy now, after the fraud doctor started to call him and say he saw that my spouse is becoming sick (fraud dr has a drop of spouse’s blood and claims it changes when spouse becomes sick) and that he needs to start his remote therapy…

    If you can speak German or are willing to translate: behold fraud dr website

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      I thought my dad was crazy because he thought rubbing his fingernails together would regrow his hair (he’s bald like Mr. Clean).

      This is the truly wacky shit right here though.

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        Desperate people are so willing to believe… I guess that goes for some bald people too :/

        I know a few people who got their hair transplanted to their heads and are very happy with it. JIC your father gets tired of rubbing his nails someday.

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      wow and in Germany too. You would think a good level of nation-wide education would solve such problems. seems like not.

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        “Best” part of this is that our public health insurance pays out for this nonsense. Some providers allow you to opt out but I don’t think the majority of Germans bother.

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        The Nazis and (racial) pseudo science. Name a more iconic duo.

        But even before that, health at least to a certain degree, has become a product. This is the breeding ground for these kind of people.

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        It’s a problem here. Studied apothecaries are peddling that bullshit as medicine. Most health insurances even pay for that shit.

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      Wow, this doctor is definitely not suffering from low self esteem. What a hack. Hey, hope you will get better soon!

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      I hate it how people are willing to trust any shady person in the name of alternative medicine. Sure, regular medicine has it’s flaws, but the solution is better research, not alt medicine peddled by the shadiest people imaginable.

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          “But this supplement was just researched and developed by an exceptionally clever homeschooling mom who wanted to take on big pharma!”

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          Germany has an incredibly high prevalence of homeopathy being prescribed by doctors. A german friend told me people have been sued for publicly stating homeopathy doesnt work- I asked them to send me their source, I’ll post it when they do!

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      I’m pretty sure I already saw an article where a guy replaced his table salt with some other form of sodium because chat gpt suggested it. He ended up giving himself a disease that’s been mostly eradicated in the modern day.

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        A poisoning that’s rarely seen anymore but used to be more common. The heaps of data on bromism over the decades must not have made it into the training data.

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          Probably made it into the training data, but he didn’t ask the right prompt to make it spit out the info.

          ChatGPT isn’t very good at grasping intent or considering consequences before you ask about specific things. It’s still more A than I lol

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            It’s like that “charge your iphone in the microwave” image that went around for a while but writ large and in language tailored to be more convincing.

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        Yup, he was eating sodium bromide instead of sodium chloride. Any significant amount of bromide is not good for ya.

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      “You could totally use quantum crystals to heal your cancer, would you like me to get a list of effective crystals?”

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    Not homeopathy but I once saw a video where someone tried to use quantum physics to justify manifesting. Grifters gonna grift.

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      Meanwhile none of these people know what a probability field is, much less what the fuck makes a baryon anti-green.

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    I highly recommend everyone to read up on Feynman, he is absolutely one of the genius that you can read about for modern times (well probably Hawking too). He gave me the urge to understand calculus and even if I never got there (I will probably try till I die because I wish I understood the world in a similar way), I so wish I could understand it 1/10 of he did. Also the biographies and other stories show how much he loves what he did, if we only could have many more with such interest in science. Mean maybe we do I don’t read science journals but his drive I think shows a lot.

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    The supposed science behind homeopathy was already known, though. It was never a mystery.

    It basically worked around the pseudoscientific principle that water remembered what used to be in it, so if you diluted out water concentrated with the thing you had, it would somehow “remember” what was in it, and when taken, would draw it from the body through some principle of magnetism.

    It’s not like it magically somehow worked, and everyone was in amazement or anything quite like that. The only real reasons it did anything at all was that its contemporary treatments were things like bloodletting, which were worse for most things than not doing anything at all, or as a result of placebo.

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      Not only that, but that the compound you dilute, must be something that causes the symptoms you pretend to aliviate.

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      Assuming this effect existed, wouldn’t the memory of the water be polluted with all kind of things (as water is recycled all the time)? The specific water molecules you are ingesting probably spent considerable time (considering the age of the earth and all water on it) as saltwater. If longer exposure makes the memory stronger, you should be getting a lethal dose of salt quite easily

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        Assuming this effect existed, wouldn’t the memory of the water be polluted with all kind of things (as water is recycled all the time)?

        Yes.

        If longer exposure makes the memory stronger, you should be getting a lethal dose of salt quite easily

        No, it would be the reverse. The water would magnetise to the salt, and draw it out of you, making you very dead.

  • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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    Yeah know over the years I have gone from let the idiots be idiots when it comes to folks who believe pseudoscience, but I am now of the general opinion that it should be perfectly acceptable to throw them in front of a train.

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      Yeah know over the years I have gone from let the idiots be idiots

      The problem is they take over the world, they end up in the positions of power etc. How to contain that, short of derision I’m not sure and even derision often doesnt work, some wear their stupidity as a badge of achievement!

      It’s only because of their stupidity that they’re able to be so sure of themselves.” - Franz Kafka

      The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. - Bertrand Russell

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        Absolutely also doesn’t help that they can now communicate over the internet, which means every person who has the potential to be the village idiot almost inevitably becomes one.

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          To add to your point, it used to be that the village idiot was just that, known for it, and shamed or shunned. Now that they can connect to other village idiots, they can find a community of like minded idiots that reinforces their beliefs.

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      They should be fine anyhow if homeopathy really works. They just need to take a little train material, serially dilute it to 10⁻²⁰ strength, then take it with sugar pills. Train immunity!

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        Are you telling me that I should have diluted some bullet material, instead of trying to start by shooting myself with a small caliber and work up my immunity from that? All this work, wasted!

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    Quantum entanglement implies that voodoo dolls are theoretically possible.

    Also, maybe we should collectively stop invoking Feynman’s name? I’ve heard he wasn’t exactly a fine man

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      Also, maybe we should collectively stop invoking Feynman’s name? I’ve heard he wasn’t exactly a fine man

      Still a scientist that can’t and shouldn’t be erased from history.

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        Most of the criticism comes from a chapter in “Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman!” where he does some things close to what we now call PUA shit. In other words, picking up women at a bar by acting like an asshole.

        Feynman also called it off after a test because he didn’t want to treat women that way.

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      Oh yeah he was definitely an abusive piece of shit and there are far better people to cite.

      Oh wait piefed people can’t see this because the developer of the piefed fork hard coded it to block hexbear while still forcing us to see comments from their instances.

      Boycott piefed until this is rectified.

      • iThinkImDumb [any, hy/hym]@hexbear.net
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        Oh wait piefed people can’t see this because the developer of the piefed fork hard coded it to block hexbear while still forcing us to see comments from their instances.

        yeah fuck that. why do we stay federated with them if they blocked us? they’re just cynically manipulating how federation is supposed to work. if they cant see our replies why should we be subjected to their runny libshit? no offense or hate directed to s@piefed.world, their above comment is fine but i am sick of smug piefed libs and even chuds stinking up a thread and then seeing hexbear people take the time to write good explanatory replies and not knowing that the person they are responding to will never even see.

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      quantum entanglement implies no such thing, stop reading garbage.

      also what’s cancelling a man who died in the 80s going to accomplish for literally anyone? he was a historic scientist who made important contributions to his field. absolutely tell the truth about the kind of person the man was but “shut up about feynman bc feynman bad” is a fucking brain dead take.

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    “You are simultaneously healthy and dying of cancer. We just need only observe you when you’re healthy.”

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      yeah yeah I’m sure quantum mechanics makes us all immortal if that makes you feel better 🤣

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        I don’t want everyone to be immortal. I want to be the only immortal and watch you all perish.

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    Do you understand how your car works, every single aspect? No? Do you know how to use your car?

    Those are separate things. Yes, there’s overlap but you say because you don’t understand how it works, doesn’t mean you don’t know how to use it.