• Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de
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      My ex, well if you can even call it that, dumped me because I apparently apologize too much and “apologies are useless and just show that you lack confidence”.

      So, according to her, yes.

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        I’m in a relationship with a person who apologizes dozens of times a day for stuff that absolutely doesn’t require an apology.

        Basically all that it’s done is make their apologies meaningless.

        And at a certain point it comes off as attention seeking behavior, because it feels like it’s about garnering sympathy instead of actually caring about my feelings.

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          That is often caused by abuse earlier in their life that forms a habit which is hard to break. Frequently being blamed for things they may or may not have done and being forced to apologize becomes a habit, or trying to deflect because they are worried that the other person might be upset when things don’t go perfectly can be hard to stop doing.

          It does come across as attention seeking.

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            Yeah I struggle with it myself. But I’ll also say “hurt people hurt people” is usually used to refer to how many cruel and assertively abusive people have trauma, but it also works very well to describe how many trauma responses including sympathetic ones can damage those around you. I’ve been abused by someone whose entire tactic was about how damaged and traumatized she was and despite her constant lies, I do believe that her self image issues and inability to sit with her thoughts are real, even that she had a background of being abused, but she left behind a trail of hurt people that she’d latched onto as potential saviors. And the inability to handle someone being upset with them is one of the really damaging things about these people, as enforcing boundaries makes you into the villain.

            Sorry if that was more trauma dump than helpful addition. I have feelings about all this

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        If this was the reason they broke it off, then they did you a favour. A worthwhile relationship wouldn’t end over something so small. Better to move onto more mature partners

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        I don’t mean this is in a bad way, but they are sort of right on the last part. Apologies aren’t useless though. They are very needed to maintain healthy relationships between people, be they romantic or business or otherwise.

        But I do also get very tired very quickly, if someone is over-apologizing or just constantly doing it. Either there’s a reason for the apology and they constantly fuck up or do something wrong, at least in their own opinion enough to warrant the apology. or they keep saying it where they need not do so which is just frustrating and I have also associated it with lack of confidence.

        Either way, I can understand your ex, and have felt the exact way they did, and I wanted to just stop by and say that it is not necessarily intended as an insult or as a criticism or whatever, just that they really could not deal with it. I had no hard feelings or anything bad to say about the people I’ve met like this, always apologizing, it’s simply a very human incompatibility.

        There are people who don’t perceive the apologies as tiring or annoying or as lack of confidence or whatever. Those people will love you for it. But the people who don’t, aren’t necessarily intending to signal or say it’s bad, it might just be that it’s incompatible with them. That’s how I’ve explained it or how I feel it anyway, but I found myself relating to your ex so thought I’d throw in an anecdote from the other side.

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          What she unironically meant is that you should never, ever apologize even if you realize you fucked up and just double down endlessly. But nice that you assumed the worst possible scenario about me as a person with no context whatsoever, really appreciate that.

          Small anecdote to demonstrate: after we broke up, she went out with her best friend to party and they met some dude that they invited to an after-party at my ex’s place. Best friend hooked up with him and that made my ex so mad that she called the police on both of them (it was during covid - they didn’t practice social distancing, their body their choice, you know). She never apologized for it and it destroyed their friendship for a while. They apparently hang with each other again now, so I dunno what happened. They are both crazy, so birds of a feather I guess.

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            But nice that you assumed the worst possible Scenario about me as a person with no context whatsoever, really appreciate that.

            orgrinrt@lemmy.world generously gave you gentle feedback in case it applied to you. No need to get insulted. They didn’t bother to get more context from you in a to-and-fro because they are not paid to do so.

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      Apologizing about stuff you don’t need to can be a pretty tiring and unassertive trait. Like in the pic apologizing for asking about a date. Then again, the chad way on the right seems like it would just get a “who dis” reply

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    Yeah, the second I see anyone trying to make a point by using AIGen images, there point is already invalid in my mind.

    They don’t even have the gall to use random non-AI stock images or even better, use shitty hand drawn images.

    Either way, I can’t give this an upvote, morally, but it is kinda funny, though.

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    Maybe I’m getting older but I feel like texting someone so late they didn’t read it until after the proposed meeting time might not be a good strategy either.

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      It’s a power move, bro. They’ll realize they’re already late which creates a sense of urgency. Like and subscribe for more alpha tips on manipulating others.

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          If you send me $45.50 a month, I’ll send you a pair of my musky socks to huff and absorb my masculinity once a week. For another $10, I’ll also send you a supplement pack that’ll help you feel like a real man again. (It’s caffeine, ibuprofen, Mucinex and an secret ingredient that’s legally different from tums).

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      I still don’t get how it isn’t a gay hookup. How are you supposed to read it?

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        I guess we’re supposed to look at the guy on the left and instead of thinking “He is in distress,” we’re supposed to think, “He is unfuckable.” And we’re supposed to look at the guy on the right and instead of thinking, “He is going to fuck that other guy,” we’re supposed to think, “He is so fuckable.”

        I think it’s gay either way you look at it.

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    This AI slop is so dumb too

    • left guy is breaking past his keyboard
    • right guy has his message read one minute after he told them to arrive, meaning he was left on read until the literal last second

    Like even in their dream scenario, they’re unread? Lmao

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      Don’t forget the giant middle finger on the guy on the right

      God I hate slop. But I guess if you’re a talentless man-o-sphere idiot you’d see no other choice

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      Oh christ I didn’t realize the timing thing, makes this that much more funny. The confident look of the guy when he sees he finally got read a minute after the time they confidently told the other party to come.

      It’s so dumb, oh my god

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    I can tell even “good” AI images because of the weird over manufactured look, kinda hard to describe it’s kinda like how fake leather feels wrong. But anyways this has the same weird energy as those weirdly gay Sino-Soviet propaganda posters.

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    Alpha bros and pickup artists make a lot more sense once you know about the Diagnostic Checklist for Psychopathy.

    spoiler

    Item 1: Glibness/superficial charm
    Item 2: Grandiose sense of self-worth
    Item 3: Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
    Item 4: Pathological lying
    Item 5: Conning/manipulative
    Item 6: Lack of remorse or guilt
    Item 7: Shallow affect
    Item 8: Callous/lack of empathy
    Item 9: Parasitic lifestyle
    Item 10: Poor behavioral controls
    Item 11: Promiscuous sexual behavior
    Item 12: Early behavior problems
    Item 13: Lack of realistic, long-term goals
    Item 14: Impulsivity
    Item 15: Irresponsibility
    Item 16: Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
    Item 17: Many short-term marital relationships
    Item 18: Juvenile delinquency
    Item 19: Revocation of conditional release
    Item 20: Criminal versatility

    One of the most commonly observed traits in psychopathy (the actual mental disorder, not the distorted tiktok pop-sci version of it) is that someone suffering from it has very reduced feelings of anxiety and shame. Makes sense that they’d be confused by someone else feeling anxious and not really understanding why they’d choose to present like that.

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      Huh, it really does make sense now that I think about it.

      I hate how we live in a world where this kind of behaviour is not just accepted, it’s often a desired trait. Lots of CEOs are psychopaths.

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        I think it’s usually more their Machiavellinism that gets CEOs ahead in life. Psychopathy and Narcissism sit close to it on the Dark triad and have some overlaps, but of the three, Machiavellinism is probably the most impactful on Career success. I think it’s useful to know the difference and recognize the specific traits, as anyone on the Dark Triad can be made to act perfectly pro-social given the right incentives!

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    Y’know, I first read the image, and it felt like “Oh, so Man1 isn’t feeling great, so his friend Men2 tells him to come to have at his place to talk about it or just do something fun. That’s a nice friendship”.

    That perception did not survived the rest of the text.

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    Lol the attempt to show a fast read actually made it look like the text wasn’t read until after the meeting time had passed.

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    why would she be reading the text one minute after it told her to be there? Doesn’t that speak even worse for the alpha male?