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airportline@lemmy.zip to Fediverse@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 months ago

Can we please stop arguing about whether Bluesky is decentralized?

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Can we please stop arguing about whether Bluesky is decentralized?

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airportline@lemmy.zip to Fediverse@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 months ago
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Nobody's changing their minds at this point, so let's stop wasting our time.
  • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    The storage requirements aren’t an issue anymore.
    You can self host everything for around ~$34 a month.

    @gabboman@app.wafrn.net runs an alternate bluesky instance (kinda) and he’s not bankrupt yet. Hell, it was on a free oracle server for a while.

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      but can I use a random old computer I have in my house to run an instance as long as there are a managable number of users? renting a server isnt self hosting. making one yourself is self hosting.

      • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Yes, you can.

        You can easily run a PDS, that’s the main public-facing part, you’d need port forwarding and a domain name for this.
        Appviews are easier to host imo, https://github.com/alnkesq/AppViewLite is what I use. You can run this on a PC right now, and log in with your bluesky account.

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          thats not a whole instance though. thats just a place for an account to be. on activity pub platforms anyone can just make an entire indepent and independently functional instance of the platform.

          • he think my tractors faggy@app.wafrn.net
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            but why would you want your account tied to a specific software and index

          • Gabbo the wafrn guy@app.wafrn.net
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            Have you even looked at wafrn

            • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.zip
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              Doesn’t seem like they did. Sorry for all the negativity you are facing in this thread, thank you for your work on wafrn.

              • Gabbo the wafrn guy@app.wafrn.net
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                Its ok no worries
                Fedi people looses it with atproto

                • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.zip
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                  I’ve been using https://deer.social/ recently, it’s okay. I’m not that big on microblogging, but it works alright.

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              Let’s start to argue about important things, like why ATProto has a 300 character limit!

          • 🧝🧚🧜 Magical Birl 🧞🧙@app.wafrn.net
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            The thing is, there are no instances in ATProto. Instances are an ActivityPub thing.

            There are PDS + Appviews + relays. All three aspects are self-hostable and can be combined in any way. The appview you use is not limited by your PDS (while in AP the type of instance you run very much limits the number of fronteds and clients you can use), nor is your relay.

            A person could selfhost their own pds, use the blacksky relay and the deer.social appview, to give an example.

            • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Also: you can easily self host an appview (check appviewlite), and you can set it to crawl PDSes directly, instead of using a relay.

          • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            ???
            The PDS and the Appview combined are equivalent to an instance. Both run on shitware.

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        Yeah

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        No, you can’t. You can have a custom domain (“PDS” is the term they invented for this) but it still relies on bluesky’s servers.

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