I hear Riverdale was like that.
Prison Break.
Season one is breaking out of prison. So far so good.
Season two is a manhunt. That’s fair, it’s the aftermath.
Season three is breaking out of prison… again! But this time in Panama. Technically that is the show, so alright.
Season four is a secret shadow organization who can cure all diseases but don’t.
Also there is a post-show film that adds another prison break for some reason. Also I’m learning the show was revived for a fifth season, I can’t say what that’s about.
It was conceptualized as a miniseries and not really intended to go beyond the first season. They didn’t write it to have a plot post season one so it goes off the rails quickly as they tried to capture the original essence that made it popular while winging it on the story. Hell they didn’t even originally write it to have as many episodes in the first season as they ended up having and iirc they even considered just making a movie instead
Season 5 is, you guessed it, another prison. This time in the middle east.
Talks of a reboot/relaunch are being thrown around rn
I feel like an anthology series based around different prison breaks in different eras and countries could be very fun.
Before the original run got cancelled I heard that season 5 was going to be the girlfriend doctor in a female prison.
Sherlock unfortunately. S1-2 are some of the best TV I’ve ever watched. 3 was okay, and then 4 was completely off the rails, with each episode being about some zany conspiracy. Granted it can’t take all the credit, Doyle did the same.
It’s been awile but was season 4 when he basically became God? Like, I get that he’s smarter than everyone but it turned into him basically containing all human knowledge in his head. “That hair on her scarf is from a Persian blah blah breed of cat only available from X thus proving she’s the murderer” without doing any research, just God-like knowledge kicking around his head.
Yes it was far less a whodunnit and more of a psychic detective show
The worst was the little closed-eye twitching Cumberbatch was doing when “going” through all this knowledge. It was always kinda there, but season 4 was peak “let’s show him doing that for 10min straight.” It looked so ridiculous…
Haha it’s like each twitch represented flipping a page to new info. “He’s accessing his mind palace!”
I’m surprised he didn’t put two fingers up to his temple as well.
It’s so sad! So much potential and then. That.
I actually think that seasons 3&4 ruined the previous seasons. The issues presented in the later seasons were all present before then, but weren’t as obvious.
Happy Days when the Fonz jumped a shark on waterskis.
Shaka, when the walls fell.
Sokath, his eyes opened.
Dr. Who.
When started, it was a show to teach kids about history.
NCUTI AND whittaker, although its more to blame on the showrunner. Whittaker especially had problems with how the show was being run. ncuti was a weaker show than even whittakers runs. Rani, missy, masters all had such better storylines.
I was talking more about William Hartnell ;-)
First story arc has been about travelling back to the stone age, if I remember correctly.Gist of the show changed rapidly from historic arcs with some thrown in fantasy entertainment to complete SF/Fantasy already during the 60’s.
Hartnell doctor best doctor.
It’s so sad that many of the early episodes have been destroyed.
definitely. Old Who was where it was at. I wasn’t around to see it aired on TV, but I have whatever eps have been recovered. Sadly, not as many as the show deserves.
If only we had some sort of time machine, we could save those lost episodes
The group that find old episodes have kind of announced that there’s going to be an announcement soon. People connected to the group but not actually in the group have essentially said that a private collector has died, that they have at least one lost episode and that it’ll be returned to the BBC soon, plus that they’re in negotiation with other collectors who have yet more episodes to acquire them before they die, too.
That would be great news!
The group’s called Film Is Fabulous, and here’s the statement they made:
As mentioned by Sue Malden at our RECOVERED event in May, we are aware of several missing episodes of Doctor Who (Sue stated one [or] two, but there are more than this) in private film collections in the UK. We are liaising with the individuals about cataloguing and preserving their entire collection, including the missing Doctor Who episodes, and ensuring that copies are returned to the BBC. We expect to make a detailed announcement shortly.
The Daily Star doesn’t give a source for this information, and has a somewhat spotty reputation with this kind of thing, but their suggestions for what’s in private hands are: Episode 4 of The Tenth Planet, Episode 3 of The Web Of Fear, and all of Marco Polo.
I’m suspicious because, apart from Power Of The Daleks, those are all the most-wanted finds. And if someone’s telling you everything you want to hear, then you should always pause to go “hmmm”.
Marco Polo, though. It’s a great story, even just presented as a series of telesnaps with bad audio. Imagine if we actually get to see Ping Cho’s dance! And it’s Warris Hussain, so you know that it’s going to be a story which makes the absolute most of its limited resources. People moan about episodes 2-4 of An Unearthly Child, but I think they’re gorgeous. And look at how dynamic the filmed inserts are.
Again, not getting my hopes up, but just imagine if we actually got to see Marco Polo in all its glory.
ah a rare fellow Hartnell enjoyer :]
The Walking Dead. It just became a generic human vs human thing after a while. Then Negan, and then back to boring TV
When it was still new I watched the first season then quickly got bored of the second. Around episode 3. I said to myself “I’m going to start the last episode of this season and if they’re still on this fucking farm then I am never fucking watching it again”
And it was so.
NO idea why everyone else seemed to feel differently about it.
Rosanne, the 90’s sitcom starring Rosanne Barr and John Goodman. One of the many “living room set with a couch in the middle” family sitcoms, this one about an Illinois blue collar family, the Connors, and their life and times trying to make ends meet. Eight seasons of this premise making acclaimed TV, and then in the ninth season, they win the lottery, go on all these outlandish adventures, Dan cheats on Rosanne, etc. The series finale reveals the whole show is a story being told by Rosanne Barr, and that the last season was mostly bullshit, they hadn’t won the lottery, Dan had died of his heart attack in the previous season, and the show ended on a “wtf was all that?” kind of note.
I think I’ll also mention Lassie, which is just kinda weird. Non-Americans might not even know what I’m talking about. It’s a show about an unusually intelligent rough collie named Lassie. Most folks who are familiar with it know it by its first incarnation, where Lassie is a farm dog who spends her days with the farm boy named Little Timmy. Little Timmy goes on precocious little adventures and often gets into trouble, and Lassie has to help, sometimes by fetching objects but often by fetching the adults to help. And everyone pretends that they can understand Lassie’s barking. Here is a stereotypical exchange from the show:
MOM is in kitchen. LASSIE enters
Lassie: Bark. Bark. Woof.
Mom: What is it girl?
Lassie: Bark. Bark.
Mom: Timmy fell down a well?! Where?"
Lassie: Woof. Bark bark.
Mom: On Old Mister Knickerficker’s ranch? Well let’s go!
Note: You know how Darth Vader didn’t say “Luke, I am your father” or Captain Kirk never said “Beam me up, Scotty?” Yeah, Timmy never fell down a well. He fell off cliffs, into rivers and lakes, down mine shafts and into quicksand, but never into a well.
The thing is, after several seasons, Lassie just…became a forest ranger’s dog. And other than “show about a smart, fluffy dog” it had basically nothing in common with it’s original run. And then for it’s last few seasons, it became an anthology series where Lassie roamed around on her own having random adventures of the week.
Most folks who are familiar with it know it by its first incarnation, where Lassie is a farm dog who spends her days with the farm boy named Little Timmy.
That’s the second incarnation. Before Timmy, lassie belonged to a slightly older kid named Jeff. Then one day Jeff’s parents randomly decided to drop everything and move to England. They couldn’t bring lassie with them for some reason so they gave her to Timmys family. I assume Jeff died about 10 minutes after he got off the plane with no lassie to save him from his own misadventures.
He fell down the airplane toilet 39 minutes into the flight and with no dog to alert anyone he drowned in the blue water.
Roseanne really went off the rails more than her show did.
Simpsons. They were really against celebrityism and pop culture in the beginning, then they went in the complete opposite and started worshiping celebrities. Ugh. New simpsons is dead to me.
that is one show that is past its prime like 20 years ago, its like how spn turned out.
Yup. They should have ended at season 10-12. Meanwhile, futurama has endless possibilities for plots, and that’s been cancelled like 3 times now.
it got cancelled too many times to have consistent arc going.
Watching Futurama from the beginning as prep showed me how much more plots rely on pop culture as the show goes on. Used to be interesting ideas like “unmatched luck for the unluckiest guy” or “brains make people dumb” but turned into “what if Susan Boyle was an actual boil?”
These very specific references freeze the humor in place and will not be funny after time. And using the formula of “Comedy = Tragedy + Time”, removing time leaves no comedy and only tragedy so…
But seriously, Futurama also doesn’t age well.
Weeds
Lost
I still hate that show for making me sit through 7 seasons or whatever of cliffhangers and then answer none of them
J J Abrams doesn’t do plots
he ruined trek, by setting precedents of his show(lens flare, flashy scenes, ,etc) for nutrek which was captured by the horrid showrunner kurtzman.
Also, his favorite writer, Damon Lindelof. Most of this guy’s career is finding ways to ruin film and television plots.
I didn’t bother watching it all. I don’t remember exactly when I gave up on it, but I think it was maybe season 4 or so. I completed whatever season I was on and never really laid off back.
Sliders lost mostly their original cast, and plot of new wacky alternative realities and got obsessed with running from and fighting the Kromaggs.
Not a big fan of them getting rid of Jerry O’Connell and replacing him with an alternate universe version of himself, but his other self was pretty interesting enough, I guess.
I will die on the hill that this is the single show from the 90s that is most deserving of a reboot/reimagining or even a continuation would be satisfying. Though if they made it back home these days they’d still think it was a parallel Earth.
Agents of Shield.
S1 and 2 Sort of a normal seasons - agents dealing with powered people, the fall of Shield S3 Space travel for a bit, more Inhumans S4 Ghost Rider, ghosts and stuck in a computer dystopian nightmare S5 Time travel S6 Space travel S7 More time travel
they were doing too much in that series lol, it was all over the place.
I bailed out at the S5 time travel plot. I get that it’s set in a comic-book universe, but even that was too big a leap for me.
S7 More time travel
Good grief. Really?!
The entire season was time travel, not just going forward and staying for a bit.
The reason it fell apart was because the movie and tv rights are not controlled by the same people. The TV asshats shot themselves in the foot and the whole thing became worse and worse.
The Attack on Titan finale left me scratching my head
I mean, it played out like a lot of action focused anime:
- Step 1: Come up with an interesting concept (big human eating monsters)
- Step 2: ??? (maybe a training arc)
- Step 3: Fight God
more like taking almost 10years to finish 4 seasons lol.
Sustained Creativity is very hard
It’s not really about sustained creativity, the anime just dragged because they wanted to milk the franchise as much as possible. Having like 4 seasons named the final season. They adapted a 139 chapter manga into nearly a 100 episodes.
It doesn’t help that Isayama himself wasn’t sure how to reaolve Eren’s character, he originally planned a tragic ending where everyone diea but changed his mind due to the popularity of the series. The timeskip and Eren’s 180 degree personality change was the biggest issues, it was implied that due the abilities of the Attack Titan he saw something and had some motivation to change. Unfortunately trying to write a reasonable motivation for the MC to commit genocide is pretty much impossible so the ending ended up being a cheaper and worse executed version of the Code Geass ending.
Hey, at least it had an ending.
Step 3: Fight God
I laughed, but I also hate how on-the-nose this is.
Yeah off the top of my head:
- Naruto
- AOT
- Full Metal Alchemist (sorta)
- Neon Genesis Evangelion
- Code Geass (at least I think that’s how it ends)
- DBZ (I feel like they fight multiple gods)
- One Punch Man (maybe not God?)
- Seven deadly sins
DBZ (I feel like they fight multiple gods)
Yup. DragonBall Z and Super both kept adding higher and higher echelons of deities and otherworldly beings, starting with the Kais, right up to a being that sits over multiple universes. Of course, Goku tries to pick a fight with every single last one of them, with very little regard for the existence of multiple of said universes.
Seven deadly sins
I’m gonna be real here: I have no idea if that tracks or not, and I did my level best to pay attention. The story makes so little sense, with all the “rules” getting thrown out and replaced with more nonsense, every five episodes. They easily could have wound up at a lower power scale at the end than when they started, and you’d have no way to know for certain. That said, they do drag top-dog spiritual entities into the mix near the end.
If I wanted that, I could play Final Fantasy.
There is a phrase for that, it’s called “Jumping the Shark”.
Watched that! People really were sweating the Fonz’s fate. :)
“24” Just got more and more absurd and soap operatic. Also how much can one man go through?
Ask Chief O’Brien…
And, speaking of Star Trek:
3rd season of Enterprise: WTF?Futurama has the only good grandfather paradox plotline/episode, and I’ll die on that hill. In every other case its a sign of poor writing, as it steals agency from characters while stealing some or all suspense from the audience. It makes for tidy explanations and not-quite-deus-ex-machina plot points, but otherwise kills the story. Enterprise fell into this trap, when it didn’t need to - it had everything going for it without that.
I’ll be there in 15 minutes.
Watch, as Kiefer Sutherland ages 7 years in just one week!
I love how they had so many moles every season. Worst vetting ever
Family Matters
Show went from a wholesome sitcom about a family in Chicago to whacky borderline scifi. It was a spin-off of Perfect Strangers and just started going off the rails like around the 4th season when they retconned the existance of the one daughter Judy. Then by the end it just became the Steve Urkel show.
You mean to tell me that the machine that turned him into Stephan wasn’t real?
No. It is real. Of course. What’s ridiculous is that the machine only turns East Asian women over the age of 70 into Stephan. It was absurd to think it could ever work on an urkle, no matter how old.
