This is nothingburger opposition research at least partially done by the sketchy as fuck Palantir.
Listen to Graham interviewed by Pod Save America on his tattoo and decide for yourself.
I’m not watching a 50 minute long video. Can I get a TL;DR?
Graham Platner served multiple tours of duty in the Marines as a soldier and machine gun section leader, he says he got the tattoo while drunk on leave in europe with his other Marine buddies when they all decided to go get tattoos as a way to be idiots and have fun. Graham says he just picked the skull tattoo because it looked cool and tough basically and then never thought about it until recently when it came to light… from opposition research meant to sabotage him.
You should watch at least some of it though, the amount of energy being poured by corporate interests into carpet bombing Graham Platner is intense, don’t trust the lazy narratives like OP is pushing even when they flood your social media. Actually look at the facts and what Graham says, don’t trust people like OP they do not have your best interests at heart.
This is the first time I’ve ever heard of him. Looks like he’s a candidate for US senate out of Maine. Article I read said he had the tattoo altered/covered up, and he’s endorsed by Bernie. Everything I’m seeing indicates you’re correct that it’s not actually an issue
I’m still not watching a 50 minute video about a senate candidate on the other side of the country
I’m not paying too close attention to the race, so whoever votes in it should make their own decisions, but anyone who willingly signed up and returned to military service and then joins blackwater and is proud of that is absolutely not a leftist in my opinion. He may want to separate himself from his military past but be unable to because it’s not politically popular to be anti us imperialism, but the fact he’s actively promoting it demonstrates to me that he and I are absolutely not ideologically aligned. I am unwilling to give a multi return marine and blackwater agent the benefit of the doubt regarding Nazi imagery. It’s possible he believes in M4A or is pro LGBT or whatever, and if he is the best Mainers have then they can make that decision, but I am not at all excited about his candidacy. I’m not sure if he’ll be a turncoat, but even if he’s not I don’t think he’s the kind of person I’d want to unreservedly endorse.
Ball was the Democratic Party nominee for Congress in Virginia’s 1st congressional district in the 2010 election, losing to Republican incumbent Rob Wittman. In May 2017, she created the People’s House Project, a political action committee working on behalf of Democratic causes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krystal_Ball
Yeah she’s gonna Fetterman the moment she gets a seat in power.
lol no? Krystal Ball has been a very consistent left/progressive voice.
We’re talking about this person that’ll take a nazi over who’s in power? That progressive?
Wow what a gotcha!
I have watched hours and hours of Krystal Ball on her shows and speaking on other shows about progressive topics. Reliably, for years, even when surrounded by much shittier people she has stuck to a fundamentally progressive ideology without fail. The argument that she is actually saying she supports Nazis here is childish and insults your own intelligence.
The idea you can gotcha her with this is pathetic, I am open to hearing criticism of progressive voices, people change, people lie… but this is just lazy. If you want to take down progressives, try harder, you just embarass yourself and expose the biases you are trying to manifest into truth with bullshitting.
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Promoting someone who didn’t know the specific configuration if skull and crossbones was a Nazi symbol, who’s much more recently decried racists in those leaked Reddit posts
Exactly, this is so blatantly a cynical attempt to undercut Graham for challenging the establishment.
Have they said they are going to.get it covered up or removed now they know it’s association?
I have heard one person who works to deradicalize white supremacists, who was in the movement, not remove them so he can reach more of them. However this isn’t that sort of situation.
He already got it covered up. He did so as soon as he learned about the nazi association.
I’ll say that I don’t know every hate symbol out there, and I know tons of people that get tattoos without any deeper meaning than “I think it looks cool.” I can believe that he genuinely didn’t know what it was and got it corrected once he found out what it stood for.
Already tattooed over. Some celtic knot with dog.
Yes. As soon as he found out about the oppo research he wanted to get it removed but since that takes repeated sessions over an extended period he instead went and got it covered up with a new tattoo. There is no evidence this guy is a Nazi or has ever supported white supremacy, he expressed horror at learning his tattoo could be associated with Nazis and immediately took action to rectify the situation. There isn’t really anything else you can expect from someone who made a dumb ass mistake like this, he appears to be doing exactly what one would hope someone in this situation does.
Have they said they are going to.get it covered up or removed now they know it’s association?
Yeah. It’s aready been covered over. Gone and done.
You don’t seem to understand that this guy is not actually a Nazi. He is just an ex-Marine who once drunkenly got a stupid tattoo which is now being used by right-wingers against him because he is a leftist. There is literally no evidence this guy is actually a Nazi, it is just an insinuation being perpetuated in the media to motivate people like you to do what you are doing. Please, start thinking critically about you see in the media because you are being manipulated to spread divisiveness when what we need is solidarity.
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And he’s said that as soon as he learned it was he decided to get it removed. Don’t leave that out.
Ok, so as a less informed person let’s try to ignore the “gotcha” element of this and address it more directly. With your greater depth of background on her, what are your actual thoughts regarding her support for this person?
Krystal Ball has been a progressive commentator for years. Check her wikipedia page, she has done and said a lot of stuff. In all of the things I have seen her fight for and cover in her work I have never seen her do something like casually defend a Nazi. Anything is possible but Occam’s Razor here is that she didn’t just abruptly decide to start publicly supporting Nazis and she sees this as an obvious blatant attempt to sabotage a candidate with politics she thinks will genuinely help americans vs Susan Collins.
Krystal Ball is also married to Kyle Kulinski, another extremely consistent and longstanding voice of progressivism. They got married AFTER they had both become prominent progressives who publicly would stood up for their beliefs. Yeah, Krystal could secretly be whatever, but it doesn’t fit the facts at all to say so.
Here is a recent interview with Krystal Ball about politics and media in the US in Current Affairs.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/krystal-ball
Does this read like someone who only superficially gives a shit about progressive ideas? Who is faking it just to get in position to betray everything? She sounds like a progressive nerd who follows this stuff like sports nerds who follow sports, she is EXTREMELY passionate in a way that has always felt 100% genuine to me. That doesn’t mean I think she is perfect or hasn’t fucked up in the past but no, there is no reason to think Krystal Ball isn’t a mad as hell progressive who is utterly genuine.
Also Krystal Ball is smart as fuck and quite often right, I should have put that at the top. She is worth listening to and reading first and foremost because you learn, she doesn’t waste your time.
Check out Krystal Ball and Kyle Kulinski’s show/blog “Krystal Kyle and Friends” and look at what they highlight and focus on, do these people seem like secret Nazis to you? Doesn’t this feel like a lazy distraction to try to smear progressive voices because they bring up inconvenient topics?
I have never seen her do something like casually defend a Nazi.
Now you have.
lets be honest, which is more likely
A dumbass kid gets a skull tatoo that he doesnt know the history behind
He is a closeted nazi who is running against Susan Collins on a platform railing against the oligarchy so he can turn around and enact his racist agenda.
What a fucking name
Fascists to the left of me.
Fascists to the right.
Here I am, stuck in the middle with… glances at the Zionists
Fuck, shit, God damnit.
WHAT! He got a Bad Tattoo that he then Covered Up when he was told What it Was! This is HORRIBLE and now I’m DEFINITELY Voting for Trump’s Best Friend!
-An account made YESTERDAY!
The idea he would get elected and say “Muahaha, I DID know what the tattoo meant, and now I shall vote as a Nazi in the Senate!” is just farcical. At worst, he’ll be like a Fetterman, and basically vote how Janet Mills would. The worst case scenario with him is still better than Collins.
You know who loves leftist infighting? The Right.
The crazy shit is that he could just openly be on the right and have a decent shot. Why bother lying?
It’s actually very simple. The choice in Maine is corpo-dem, republican, and regular guy. Corpo Dem is more of the same. Republican is everything going on at White House right now. Regular guy means a chance at progress and some reform of corporations. Seems like an easy choice to me.
Corpo dem is also 77 years old.
Hey, if you want someone that brags about sending strongly worded letters, you know who to vote for.
who the hell names their child crystal ball?
Edward and Rose Marie Ball, apparantly.
Sounds like Eddy Ball is just continuing the abuse …
People give their kids weird names… My grandmother went to school with a girl named Ima June… her family’s name was Bugg.
I can only imagine the teasing that girl got.
I knew a girl named crystal blue. Last name drinkwater.
She hated it.
He’s also ex-Blackwater
So a tattoo celebrating a people that committed a genocide is OK? The sadest thing about this is that people will totally buy into it.
The tattoo is gone. Dude had it covered up once he learned what it stood for.
I mean, using what you think is a cool symbol w/o realizing it’s actual meaning? It’s a thing.
How many military and right-wing groups use The Punisher skull on their swag, w/o realizing that the kinds of people they are are EXACTLY the kinds of people - thugs, brutes and those who like abusing others - that Frank Castle would go after?
I wish the the original tweet would have at least mentioned that as part of their criteria for supporting someone who got a nazi tattoo. If he just left it alone after learning, there’s not a chance I’d trust the guy nor anyone promoting him.
So I’m about covered in tattoos. Not a single time have I gone into a shop where any tattooist or artist wouldn’t check on a symbol. I’ve seen people get told to fuck off when going in for some nazi bullshit. I’ve seen artists sit people down and explain why getting lighting bolts “on that particular style” might be a bad idea. So either dudevis is dumb as a half a box of hammers or hescfull of shit. In my experience, people that get Nazi shit tattooed on them are usually both.
You are not, and apparently don’t know, a tattoo artist who’s client/market includes drunk Marines on shore leave.
It’s entirely plausible that a group of drunk lower-enlisted Marine reta… errr “Riflemen” went into a shop and all got a tattoo by pointing at something they thought was ‘cool’ posted on the wall.
It’s ironic (?) they they did this in Split, Croatia which is a country that had a rather strong actual-Nazi sentiment during and after WW2. Look up the Ustatce if you’re interested
ANYHOW it is undeniable that he got the ink, but completely plausible that he had zero idea what it was about, except that it looked like a fat pirate symbol
I’m skeptical, but yeah, I guess. Still, I’d keep my guard up around anyone that has, or had, tattoos like that whatever the excuse.
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He went on TV showing his chest with it covered.
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Fucking Google it. Graham planter tatto coverup. First result.
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Get fucked.
You’ve been in here whining your whiny bitchass in this thread for hours(?) now, demanding that other people spoon-feed you sources that you can find yourself with like NO effort
I don’t think you’re a bot, but in this thread at least, you have the stench of an actual Nazi troll
But you have the time harrass people online about this. You had a point the first time, now you’re a fuckwit.
Why are you too busy bullshitting?
One that was covered up when it was pointed out to him what its origin was?
Is this the kind of candidate progressives support?
I’ve got someone trying to tell me promoting nazis is in fact very progressive lol
Well they are self-described socialists and they love the nation.
They… they’re the same?
