- cross-posted to:
- privacy@programming.dev
- hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
- cross-posted to:
- privacy@programming.dev
- hackernews@lemmy.bestiver.se
I mean with the stupid names, could you not?! carving out interest in this crowded space is a challenge onto itself, you don’t hafta shoot yourself in the foot from the get-go!
that aside, anyone got experience with the thing?
It’s a welsh word.
Not sure why the downvotes but Wikipedia says you are right.
“Cwtch is a Welsh word that means a cuddle or embrace, often associated with feelings of warmth and safety. It can also refer to a small space or cubbyhole for storing things safely.”
Asio on the cwtch website itself:
Cwtch /kʊtʃ/
Cwtch (/kʊtʃ/ - a Welsh word roughly translating to “a hug that creates a safe place”) is a decentralized, privacy-preserving, multi-party messaging protocol that can be used to build metadata resistant applications.
thank you! I am also one of the dozens of people who can read, what are the odds we come across one another on lemmy of all places, huh?
while I have you here, would you say that giving unpronounceable welsh names to new entrants attempting to challenge established players with a decade+ strong foothold in this space is a) a prudent decision or b) hella stupid?
we got issues switching normies to signal which has been around forever, how’s tongue-breaker gonna make any progress?
unpronounceable
To whom? Should Welsh people not use privacy software too? Stupid ass chauvinist position
In any case, the IPA above doesn’t seem “unpronounceable” at all to me as a native speaker of German and fluent speaker of English. The pronunciation isn’t intuitive from the spelling, that is quite a different thing from being unpronounceable.
I mean, just imagine you’re spitting game at cutie at the bar and things are cooking and you go “hit me up on hkmbljurgh” and all of a sudden fire and brimstone all around
kthulucthulhu appears wondering why you summonedhimthem you scream sorry bro wrong number bro kthulu goes its aight buthethey missed a dentist’s appointment because of this the barkeep is now pissed who’s gonna clean this up cutie is nowhere to be found…shoulda gone with signal is what I’m saying
Again, stupid chauvinist take. Not everyone speaks English and not everyone uses English pronunciations. Also, cwtch is a relatively popular loanword too, plenty of English speakers have learnt to say it.
You know most of the world finds English spellings hard to pronounce, right? You’re speaking in a language notorious for its inconsistent pronunciations (see “-ough”).
It’s also particularly fucked up to mock Welsh like that given that Welsh is one of the many languages with a long history of children being violently reprimanded for speaking their native language by English people.
To piggyback on this and apply chauvinistic reciprocity, why would you spit anything at some you find cute. They probably decided to leave with Cthulhu, who is confidently, unapologetically, Cthulhu.
How do you pronounce it?
Kutch. Pronounce the U like in “put”. The comment above that includes its definition has a link to the pronunciation of it if you’d prefer to hear it.
IPA is here: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cwtch
Nty, I don’t like IPAs
Then you’ll be happy to know cwtch is a red: https://www.tinyrebel.co.uk/product/173/quick-view
Thanks for the hint :) probably going to switch from SimpleX to this one :)
It’s a great project. Unfortunately Android consistently shuts it down while it is running in the background.
Tried it years ago, it was clunky as hell. Maybe it has improved.
This feels way too overkill for me.
Depends on your threat model. But given more people using these things normalize it for those who can justify the need for such software (like whistleblowers, those organizing illegal direct action), it makes it easier for them to use it without it gaining too much suspicion and makes it easier for them to use it more consistently even outside talking about things that more obviously need that extra security.
Someone message me
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Yeah that’s nice, but that premise & use-case is already delivered,
Session does all of that, just in their own “tor-like” network;Also session is a fork of signal without the need of a phone number, you get an “Account IDs” instantly.
Cwtch is doing the same on the Tor network itself, which is great, if tor’s speed / performance is dealt with…
So, what does Cwtch do extra?? Also does it (Smoothly) support obfs4 bridges for firewalled users?
Also, website lacks some technical details, like being a rewrite (& extention of) of Ricochet as stated in their repo & Security Handbook unlike their website’s homepage saying “The Cwtch protocol”…
But the Docs seems nice & the whole app would be a good option next to session, just wha else it offers?






