There need to be real consequences for this. This is mass propaganda that affects geopolitics, interferes in elections, undermines democracy and encourages people into a worldview that is destined for conflict.
I got your point, just tried to make the distinction between ruling and controlling, because in my eyes the verb ruling is for those who are factually in charge (the people in official positions) and controlling is a better fit for those that are de facto in charge (oligarchs, international corpo’s, foreign state actors etc).
They are the boss, i agree, but the factually Trump is in the highest position and factually nobody rules over him. I’m not argueing that reality is different, because it’s obvious Trump is behaving as a russian asset.
“Everyone with whom I disagree is a Russian troll” and other utterly deranged things Americans say.
Your country was happily supporting fascism in my homeland, Spain, and now becomes fascist itself. But sure, the problem of fascism in America is caused by le evil Ruzzians, no accountability in your own nation. We’re talking fucking twitter too, a literal american social network owned by fucking Musk, but the problem of everything is Ruzzia now. Ruzzia is the new “Judeobolshevism”.
Also, this case is somewhat interesting, because I believe there definitely is part of propaganda that targets Americans and originates from the US itself.
That doesn’t mean that blatant propaganda is fine, be it from Putin, from Trump, or any of the others
“Why u blame Ruzzia, Ruzzia disinformation doesn’t exist, Russian trolls don’t exist, and they most certainly don’t exist on Lemmy and even if they did I’m certainly not one of them”
… Russia, however, denies that it uses disinformation to influence public opinion.[7]
Often Russian campaigns aim to disrupt domestic politics within Europe and the United States in an attempt to weaken the West due to its long-standing commitment to fight back against “Western imperialism” and shift the balance of world power to Russia and her allies. According to the Voice of America, Russia seeks to promote American isolationism, border security concerns and racial tensions within the United States through its disinformation campaigns
Do you get that like as a text you need to learn before going online or why is is almost word for word the same for each of you. Pretty much the exact same thing Davel@lemmy.ml replied to me the first time he replied.
It’s the best laugh I get, seeing people like Davel pretend they’re not Russians, and actually are redblooded Americans.
But yeah, I understand not everyone is Ruzzki, but Ruzzkis never admit to being Ruzzkis, because of how thrash everyone knows what an utter shit Russia is on the global stage, so all the lil вахтераs pretend to be from other countries to not face criticism.
There need to be real consequences for this. This is mass propaganda that affects geopolitics, interferes in elections, undermines democracy and encourages people into a worldview that is destined for conflict.
Consequences imposed by whom? The US is currently ruled by the very powers who are employing these accounts.
I’d say controlled by is more accurate, because the people who factually rule the US are not based outside of the US.
I never said they were. I said they were employing these accounts. But anyway, the oligarchs who rule the US are not all based in the US.
I got your point, just tried to make the distinction between ruling and controlling, because in my eyes the verb ruling is for those who are factually in charge (the people in official positions) and controlling is a better fit for those that are de facto in charge (oligarchs, international corpo’s, foreign state actors etc).
Krasnov heartily agrees. As does his boss, Putin.
They are the boss, i agree, but the factually Trump is in the highest position and factually nobody rules over him. I’m not argueing that reality is different, because it’s obvious Trump is behaving as a russian asset.
Mass propaganda is only OK if it’s done by Americans in American soil?
Nah they’re also sad that radio free Europe and Asia lost funding 😭
Jeesus fucking hell, could you be more clearly a Russian troll?
I’ve just seen your username and like a few comments under this post but Holy fuck. Learn to have a little think before posting, lil’ вахтера.
“Everyone with whom I disagree is a Russian troll” and other utterly deranged things Americans say.
Your country was happily supporting fascism in my homeland, Spain, and now becomes fascist itself. But sure, the problem of fascism in America is caused by le evil Ruzzians, no accountability in your own nation. We’re talking fucking twitter too, a literal american social network owned by fucking Musk, but the problem of everything is Ruzzia now. Ruzzia is the new “Judeobolshevism”.
They are not from the US as far I know
Also, this case is somewhat interesting, because I believe there definitely is part of propaganda that targets Americans and originates from the US itself.
That doesn’t mean that blatant propaganda is fine, be it from Putin, from Trump, or any of the others
вахтера so mad.
“Why u blame Ruzzia, Ruzzia disinformation doesn’t exist, Russian trolls don’t exist, and they most certainly don’t exist on Lemmy and even if they did I’m certainly not one of them”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_disinformation
Do you get that like as a text you need to learn before going online or why is is almost word for word the same for each of you. Pretty much the exact same thing Davel@lemmy.ml replied to me the first time he replied.
It’s the best laugh I get, seeing people like Davel pretend they’re not Russians, and actually are redblooded Americans.
But yeah, I understand not everyone is Ruzzki, but Ruzzkis never admit to being Ruzzkis, because of how thrash everyone knows what an utter shit Russia is on the global stage, so all the lil вахтераs pretend to be from other countries to not face criticism.
Pathetic, really.
People should get motivated to force change.