• ZILtoid1991@lemmy.worldEnglish
    55·
    6 days ago

    ACAB includes:

    • The goth chick from NCIS.
    • The fuckable bunny from Zootopia.
    • The cyborg lady from Ghost in the Shell.
    • That cool cyborg cop from Robocop.

    And many more…

    • Damage@feddit.itEnglish
      37·
      6 days ago

      It feels like Robocop spent more time fighting other law enforcement than anybody else

              • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
                3·
                6 days ago

                you can enjoy the whole show as you so desire. avoiding problematic media has never really done anything to shift the narratives. what has has providing context to people who consume this media uncritically and recommending them better media to take on alongside the problem media. the world needs people who can look at chips and see and explain the problems with it. if the people who can don’t, that will only leave the people the copaganda works on locked into a media bubble unaware of the problems. so watch and love chips. but read and love Mutual Aid by Dean Spade, too. and always know that any broadcast you watch you are recieving two messages. there’s the message the creators of broadcaster wanted you to receive and the one the equipment operators (usually advertisers and politicians) wanted you to receive. try to find both and identify which is which, and then discuss with other people watching the thing which they identify with and why

        • mika_mika@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          6 days ago

          The show COPS is propaganda but it had the opposite effect on me and had me sympathetic towards the victims; cheering them on when they obviously got away with having narcotics on them or hoping they escape the chuds.

        • Skullgrid@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          6 days ago

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    • Skullgrid@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      6 days ago

      they literally shut down the show because of BLM (as in, they didn’t want to do copaganda anymore due to BLM opening their eyes)

      • Soup@lemmy.worldEnglish
        15·
        6 days ago

        He is a character meant to uphold the idea that the system can be changed from within while making the police force out to be a kookie fun place.

        A fun show, at least until season 5 started explaining the punchlines, but it’s not without issue.

      • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
        2·
        6 days ago

        i love brooklyn 99, and this is still true. i have another comment in this thread giving a deeper breakdown. the nypd partnered with b99 for a reason. i think at the end of the day the two messages that go out with b99, the creators and the equipment owners, the creators’ messaging surrounding racial equity, found family, and queer acceptance comes across stronger than the equipment owner’s messaging that not all cops are bastards. but you still have to engage with that the nypd cooperated on that show for a reason, and it’s worth talking to less critical viewers about that no, sophia is not a monster, you fucking dipshits. what she says about defense attorneys is outright true, and the prevailing online opinion that she’s a terrible person is not shared across the spectrum (this is literally an opinion i’ve only ever encountered with one real life person and with redditors at large)

    • killingspark@feddit.orgEnglish
      20·
      6 days ago

      Imma be pedantic about this one: judges are not in the same part of the three separate parts of power as the police (at least commonly in democracies). Technically they are supposed to keep the cops in check and be a neutral independent instance.

      In reality: most judges are bastards too if you have any qualm with the police, because that often translates to problems with state authority which includes them as well, which more often than not makes them allies to the cops.

      • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
        6·
        6 days ago

        Judge Dredd is an exploration of the British and American legal tradition where the judges are not as impartial as they are presented to you. Dredd represents the lived reality that the judge is a tool of the holders of capital

      • ricecake@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        5·
        6 days ago

        Acab doesn’t cover judges. Doesn’t mean they can’t be bastards, just means they aren’t cops.

        A lot of a judges job is making sure procedure is followed. Police and DAs are generally pretty good at the paperwork, and working with them regularly means they have a relationship, which they don’t with defence.

        I’d say all judges are complicit.

  • Denjin@feddit.ukEnglish
    19·
    7 days ago

    ACAB includes the two pairs of shoes walking towards the camera in the intro to The Bill in the 90s.

  • kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    1·
    4 days ago

    She’s a forensic scientist, not a cop, if people who work with the police but do not do law enforcement are cops then that is a much, much broader definition.

  • Valthorn@feddit.nuEnglish
    9·
    6 days ago

    I feel like ACAB is just like the “all men are rapists”. Yes, there are nice men and nice cops. ACAB does not mean that every single one of them is a fascist, but due the the systematic issues surrounding these groups and their behaviour, you as a citizen/woman just can’t trust that that this specific cop/man isn’t a bad one. Thus, all cops are bastards and all men are rapists, just to be safe.

    • Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      12·
      6 days ago

      Sounds more like justifying reasons to hate without having reasons.

      Well the ACAB thing is actually justifiable, people try to keep their ingroup save, even if they don’t like specific individuals in that ingroup and understandable people outside that group really really don’t like that bullshit which is fair. add to that that Murica’s culture is pretty cancerous and voilà.

      While on the other hand you have sexist incel rhetoric.

    • ScrooLewse@lemmy.myserv.oneEnglish
      8·
      6 days ago

      The reason ACAB is justifiable is that policing, at least in a modern capitalist society, is so fundamentally broken that to even join the force you have to make a serious moral compromise. You can claim you’re fixing it from the inside, you can try to keep to yourself, but no matter what you do, by the act of signing that initial contract of employment you’re participating in and materially supporting the violence arm of your local elites.

    • GeneralVincent@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      6 days ago

      Kinda, but the big difference is being a man is an identity and not a choice, while being a cop is entirely an intentional choice.

      So we should be empathetic to the perspective and struggles of women while trying not to demonize men as an identity.

    • froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      3·
      6 days ago

      i strongly disagree with “just to be safe” justification. fascists use exactly that narrative for scaremongering about minorities, like “all immigrants are dangerous”. the main difference between being cop, or being men, or being immigrant is that you actively choose being a cop, whereas nobody asks you to choose your sex or gender, and nobody provides you a citizenship on arrival to a foreign country

      • cobysev@lemmy.worldEnglish
        103·
        7 days ago

        Dude, if you look at Zootopia objectively, remove all the personal connections and relationships to the characters… (spoilers ahead)

        Judy was hired through a DEI-type program (assistant mayor Bellweather mentioned something about a “mammal inclusion initiative” that got her hired), which is normally a good thing, but they kind of play it like that’s the only reason she got a shot at being a cop. Bunnies aren’t cops in this world. The police academy was specifically designed for larger, more powerful mammals. Judy had to circumvent traditional training protocol and use her cadets’ power and size to assist her in order to graduate.

        She goes off-book on her first day. Chases a supposed criminal, causing all sorts of mayhem and damage across town. Insubordination against her boss. But she doesn’t get fired, thanks to her political connections.

        When she’s given a high-profile case to work (again, thanks to connections with the assistant mayor), with no resources to access, she partners with a known shifty scam artist off the street. Blackmails him with tax fraud to cooperate (instead of turning him in). Coerces him to climb a fence so she’d have “probable cause” to investigate the area without a warrant. Basically finding loopholes to circumvent official processes.

        She also manages to become part of the family in the local mafia. After a single visit to the mafia, she becomes the godmother of the mob boss’ granddaughter. She even uses them later to intimidate a witness to make him talk. Literally threatens to murder the suspect if he doesn’t talk!

        Then there’s the fact that she single-handedly caused the fall of two separate regimes! First, she takes down the mayor for kidnapping predators, then she takes out the next mayor for causing predators to “go savage.”

        Then she gets the shifty scam artist hired into the police force as her new partner!

        From an outside perspective, she’s an extremely crooked cop that abuses her position, uses political connections to get her way, makes exceptions for criminals to gain access to police resources, and violates the rights of citizens. ACAB definitely applies to Judy.

    • deltapi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      7 days ago

      In regards to paw patrol, I feel that

      • The cop dog is constantly saving the day even by doing other dogs’ jobs even when he shouldn’t be stepping in
      • There are no clever stories in that universe
      • Every single problem they face could be permanently solved by a Belgian Malinois with a Barret 50cal
      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
        7·
        6 days ago

        The entire show is written so lazily it’s just another form of slop. I have a paw patrol book we got at a garage sale where one windmill at a windmill farm stops spinning because one of the blades broke causing a power outage, so they use a surf board as a replacement blade and the day is saved. Literally not how any of this works and they could’ve spent 5 minutes researching windmills and made an actually educational story but instead they went for slop.

        Y’know how they could’ve written it to be more educational? Maybe one of the windmills had a motor issue and the power flickered due to the frequency being off, so they first go to the substation and switch off the power flow from the wind farm to just pull in from other sources, then they repair the windmill motor then restore the connection from the wind farm. Its still lazy, it doesn’t teach much but it at least doesn’t teach kids that if they see a stopped windmill to panic that there will be a power outage.

        There’s also literally an episode where the paw patrol gang influences an election. The villain was set to win the local election so the paw patrol gang goes into an advertising blitz to drown out the bad guy’s underdog (hehe) campaign but it’s all okay because the Right Person won the election! I saw this one while my kids were spending time with their trump voting grandparents

        Every time my daughter asks for Paw Patrol I say “nope we’re not watching copaganda” and I look forward to whenever she repeats that to people. When the kids are older I’ll probably explain to them about slop vs quality shows. Like, I’ve learned things from the kids watching Curious George, like what should and shouldn’t go into compost bin or to just use a pair of pliers when driving a nail so you don’t risk hitting your fingers. I want my kids watching shows that actually help them understand the real world, not just slop that’s made to mesmerize them with pretty colors and catchy lines then turns around to sell them a line of merch

      • krooklochurm@lemmy.caEnglish
        3·
        6 days ago

        Tbf every problem except being a free unincarcerated person and having too many dead bodies can be solved with a Belgian Malinois with a Barret .50 cal

    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
      8·
      6 days ago

      Does ACAB include former-detective Monk and Shawn Spencer?

      self-indulgent answer

      First of all, a police force hiring a former member as a contractor who’s now on medical disability for having a mental break and severe regression in his OCD is super problematic but also the lousy portrayal of what OCD is definitely pushed back public understanding of OCD by at least a decade

      Shawn Spencer is an even worse example. He literally was trained by his detective dad to be an amazing detective, he then ends up contracting with the police force to do detective work while actively damaging evidence in his wacky “psychic visions” he causes members of the police force to believe in mystic pseudoscience because “this psychic detective is amazing, obviously other mystical workers are just as incredible at what they do!”, he causes the police force to directly pay a psychic contractor. And let’s be real, his motive is primarily trying to get with Detective Lassator’s partner who at worst puts up with his antics and at best is vaguely amused by him

      • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
        10·
        6 days ago

        Seriously if anyone has kids, have them watch some of the shows on PBS Kids. Most are far less annoying than the slop Disney’s been producing for the 2-6 age group, and all are far more educational.

        Like, Daniel tiger is annoying but at least teaches good stuff (I’ve literally referenced it while teaching my kids something to help reinforce), but there’s some really good shows on there like Molly from Denali, Alma’s Way, Hero Elementary, Wild Krats, and Carl the Collector. Better paced, better animation and a million times better writing, plus they all happen to be shows from different human perspectives than just a random talking mouse or talking dog teaching a corporate-approved malaise

          • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
            5·
            6 days ago

            That too! I honestly enjoyed all 6 of the Curious George movies! The Molly from Denali movie was pretty cool too (at one point the mom who flies a small plane professionally has to explain that she isn’t qualified to fly the helicopter into the blizzard to save a friend who’s trapped on the mountain!)