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    I voted for him twice, but that was a solid dick move. Right now, I’m liking Mark Kelly’s chances though I’d rather have someone more forward thinking.

    And sorry folks. AOC just hasn’t got the experience yet. Senate seat or a Cabinet position first.

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    Remember Democrats, if he’s the Democrat option come election time it’s TOO LATE TO bitch!!

    Fucking primaries!! They matter they are the only real choice! Organize, cavas suppot real progressives!

    But once the national election comes up, I better not hear any fucking bitching, and you better line up becuase 4 years of president Vance is going to kick you in the nuts.

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      Gavin Newsom takes money from AIPAC and knows he can’t justify it, and has expressed support for Zionist Israel. Just like Holocaust Harris, I will not vote for anyone who supports genocide. If signing my name to greenlight genocide is the cost of “democracy” (actually oligarchy with some publicly-funded democracy theater), then the price is too high and I refuse.

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      If I’m forced to vote for this asshole I’m going to bitch the entire time.

      Why? Because it’s bullshit and I’m allowed to.

      Fuck the Democratic Party.

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      Remember Democrats, if he’s the Democrat option come election time it’s TOO LATE TO bitch!!

      And that’s why I’m not a Democrat.

      Jesus Christ, if you think Presidential primaries matter, I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you. If the Democratic primaries weren’t rigged to hell and back Bernie would have finished his second term last January. And if Democrats had been allowed to have a primary in 2024 Newsom would probably be president now.

      If you want us to believe that your primaries are an opportunity for actual choice, maybe you shouldn’t have appointed a 2024 Presidential candidate who never, in her entire life, won a single fucking primary.

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        There were no primaries in 2024…

        Again, you can rage like a lunatic and do nothing productive, or get involved and do to the Democratic party what the tea party did to the Republican party.

        So it’s absolutely possible, but just bitching about the system ain’t it.

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          The Tea Party still had the backing of capitalists. If you try moving the Democrat party meaningfully left, you will not have that.

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            It’s currently working with recent events progressive primarying efforts, but not from actually getting centrist corporate Dems from shifting left.

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          There were no primaries in 2024…

          That’s the fucking point.

          Don’t tell me I can fight the billionaire masters of the Democratic Party in the primaries when those billionaire masters canceled the primaries just last year.

          We need a new progressive movement, not just to outcompete the failed Democrats, but to move this country away from a broken system of electoral politics that lets us “choose” between two oligarchs from the Epstein caste and calls it democracy. We don’t need progressives banging their heads against a billionaire funded wall and lending credibility to a rigged primary process through their participation.

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            There wasn’t a lot of time for a primary to be fair. A primary would have happened if Biden stuck to his word and stayed a one term candidate.

            Progressives winning primaries through Ranked Choice Voting would be huge. At the least it would give us voters a real clue about how close we are to getting progressives in power instead of just the incumbents.

            Luckily, the Democratic Party has recently supported the idea of using Ranked Choice Voting for primaries.

            A new party can’t get off the ground if the entire voting system moved to Ranked Choice voting. Which can happen on a state by state basis and has already happened in Alaska and Maine.

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      I don’t like him, he’s just another Republican-lite establishment Democrat, like Obama, or the Clintons. He used to be married to Kimberly Guilfoyle, before she became Don Jr’s concubine (Now she’s in exile as the Greek Ambassador, to shut her up), so he must be tolerant enough of MAGA nonsense to marry one.

      I’m so sick of these people claiming to be our saviors every four years, and when they get in, they spend ALL their efforts appeasing corrupt pedophile traitors, even when they have the power to crush them.

      We’ve seen what MAGA is capable of, and what they want in the future. When the power flips, we have to fight fire with fire, and ruthlessly purge MAGA from our government and our society, and I doubt Newsome is the guy for the job. He’s just another water-carrier for the Sociopathic Oligarchs, which California has lots of.

      But if he’s the nominee, then that’s who I’ll vote for over ANY MAGA.

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    I got a fiver that says he has to try to walk this back when he runs “the most progressive campaign in us history” in 2028.

    I mean, how lucky are we? Hillary, Biden, Kamala, all with “the most progressive platform” ever!

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      And before that, Obama, Kerry, and if I remember right even fucking Gore were all accused of being the most radical left Presidential candidates in American history.

      Funny how the Democratic Party keeps running more and more progressive candidates - both the Republicans and Democrats say they’re doing it, so it must be true - and yet the Democratic Party keeps moving more and more to the right.

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    The only reason Newsom has had any interest from the broader electorate is that he was outspoken in opposing Trump. The minute he enters the primary and starts spouting the same valueless, donor-approved, corporate drivel as Kamala, Jefferies, Schumer, etc., he’s going to flame out fast.

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        His, “opposition,” is going to be other Democratic primary challengers. Can you at least wait until there’s a nominee before you start in with the, “Oh, you want the Republicans to win!?!?” bullshit?

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        The hatred of trump might propel a dem who otherwise has no chance. like when Biden won. Against any competent republican he would have been clobbered.

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        She was the vice president, the person we choose to take over when a president is incapacitated. I would love to hear about all the ways she’s worse than Trump.

        Nothing more infuriating to see people thoroughly scrutinize one candidate while absolutely refusing to do so for the other.

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          They didn’t say anything about Trump, they said she had no shot of winning the primary, which is true. She was on track to lose every single state, including California, where she was a sitting senator. If you think describing polling data from a 5 year old primary is somehow saying Kamala is, “worse than Trump,” you should log off for a while, maybe take a walk or something.

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      Can we stop being stupid?

      This doesn’t mean he thinks billionaires shouldn’t pay more taxes. It means it’s childish and stupid to focus on a single number when it comes to actual policy.

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    And so it begins. Abandon all progressive ideas to appeal to the “centrist”, only to lose to the fascist again. I hate it here.

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    Gonna have to change that stance if he wants to run on the Dem ticket in the year of our lord 2028.

    Cuz everyone gonna be REAL fucking mad at billionaires by then if things keep going the way they are.

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      The Dems rigged the election against Bernie to protect billionaires, then had a court declare that they were legally within their right to rig it. What makes you think they care how angry the average person is at their owners?

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      I genuinely hope so, but at the same time, polling shows conservatives and moderates don’t currently hate billionaires - they think of them as smart job creators. We have to change their hearts and minds on this, they are hearing nothing but propaganda from the billionaires themselves, all of it blaming brown and black people for their woes.

      Killing multiple birds with one stone, we need to educate people on what’s actually happening instead of assuming they’ll just break down and join our side (which also applies to a number of other issues). We don’t have an education apparatus right now which is a huge miss. Education campaigns need to be running billboards and commercials explaining what we already know and take for granted.

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      I foresee the rich having a big change of heart out of nowhere, shutting down all polluting businesses and investing their fortunes in humanity.

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      His sales pitch is centered around “I’m not a Republicantm!”

      Most people on this planet don’t lose a second of sleep or shed one tear if the poor die, including the poor.

      On the assumption that we are able to vote at the time, if it’s between him and <insertAuthoritarianDouchebagHere>, I’ll vote for him.

      However, I’d imagine that most of my fellow U. S. Citizens are well aware that this sheister is not some sort of “friend” of the poor and the middle class.

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        I’d vote for him over Trump, but he has not won me over by any stretch, just like Harris, Biden, and (Hillary) Clinton.

        A fun PR person sending tweets is insufficient to win my vote. I wouldn’t be voting for him, I’d be voting against Trump, as has been the case each time Trump has been on the ballot.

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      Why the fuck should anyone vote for this prick?

      Same reason they voted for Hillary and Joe.

      They don’t want things to change.

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          I think Gavin is counting on voting laws not changing and him going against a different Republican challenger instead of Trump.

          I’m personally hoping a different candidate wins the Democratic primary instead of Gavin, and I would support a more progressive option in the primary instead in 2028.

          You’re 100% right that actually selling a platform matters more than chasing Republicans. Dems not even trying to sell anything more than a lukewarm, water down platform is what hammered them in 2024.

          People need hope and we need Presidential candidates willing to bake risk into their messaging, such as passing Universal Healthcare and a Universal Basic Income program. Voters will move if a leader is compelling with their messaging and shows that the positive change they could bring would matter to them personally.

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          Then vote in the fucking primary. I. The general you sit up and back the better candidate no matter how shit.

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          First of all, Harris’ tax plan was to tax unrealized gains over $1M would effectively make all Billionaire’s income go limp dick, and possibly reverse the deficit at the same time, so this is actually a worse choice.

          Second, how did that fucking go? Huh? 2024 was an easy decision. 2016 was an easy decision. People keep fucking it up. No matter who wins the primary, we need to be out there promoting NotARepublican™.

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    “b… b… bUt alL tHe BiLliOnAiReS wILl rUn aWAy. TRiCkLe DoWn eCoNoMiCs, sOmeThIng, SoMeThIng” - bootlicking cunt

    Newsom has received campaign cash from billionaires such as Netflix co-founder Reed Hastings, philanthropist Laurene Powell Jobs, and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt, among others.