They can get them and will continue to be able to, pandora’s box has been opened.
Yhrt3e a difference to being able to buy a gun for a few hundred bucks in a supermarket and only being able to buy a questionable quality gun for several thousand euros on the black market, something which isn’t accessible to anyone (I don’t know anyone who sells guns for example). Sure, 3D printed guns are a thing too, but mostly because parts can be bought freely in the US which can me CNCed into workable parts. Those parts aren’t legal here either.
Also if you look back far enough in history:
Those were different times. So you’re afraid of vikings invading if guns were to be banned?
Ah you’re from a country that has never heard of sarcasm, my apologies.
The Dutch are super sarcastic. I’m autistic, I have a hard time picking it up, sorry.
Again, probably illegally possessed and won’t be gone anytime soon even if they were illegal to possess. And even if they were legal, they are already there.
Australia is a good example. They banned guns all at once, people got angry. Now they live without gun violence. Don’t say it’s not possible.
Rich and privileged
I’m not. Well, I am privileged to have been born here, that’s true. But I’ve seen a lot around the world. Nice places and horrific places (like Mogadishu for example) filled with terror. Because I’ve been to these places, not from reading about it on the internet. I haven’t been to the US though, but I have friends from there (from all around). I may be rich compared to people in Africa but also I have to live from paycheck to paycheck, don’t own a house, no car, no savings etc.
I’m going to assume based on the above observation you don’t understand the subtle racism here. It’s there though, for future reference.
I don’t understand. Saying Detroit has a high crime rate is racist? Or saying not all places in the US have a high crime rate is racist? Could you explain it, I honestly don’t get it. Sorry.
There’s 600,000,000 out there already that are not going anywhere, the price isn’t going down any time soon even if we make them illegal. Not to mention pipe shotguns, the LutySMG, the FGC9, countless reloaders with tonnes of components, and trillions of rounds of stashed ammo across the whole US civilians’ collections, good luck. Even if people would comply with an Aus style buyback, that would be astronomically expensive at the scale required to even get the percentage of guns they got (which was like 20%, and they are now back up to their 1996 amount of guns at 3.2mil.)
Those were different times. So you’re afraid of vikings invading if guns were to be banned?
You’re the one that thinks nobody ever invaded someone’s home before guns existed lol, that’s on you.
You’re privileged enough to tell poor people in bad neighborhoods to “just move somewhere better bro” because that’s exactly what you did. Do you think the people in bad neighborhoods stay for the ice cream trucks? No it’s because they can’t afford to move to a nicer area, hell sometimes the nicer area moves to them and pushes them out because now they can’t afford that neighborhood anymore, it’s called gentrification.
Detroit is a city often tied to black people and poverty and was usually used as every racist uncle’s example of racist bullshit, though now that is becoming Chicago it’s still basically a “Ah this is a 60-65yo republican I’m talking to” dogwhistle. Like I said I assume by “privileged European” you didn’t know that.
Guns are too. What do you think it costs in health care, police, intelligence services, dealing with bodies, loss of work force (as they are dead) etc? Why not stop deporting people, as that actually is astronomically expensive. You can just make excuses why to keep guns, saying it’s impossible, but is has been proven it’s possible and statistics show it works.
You’re the one that thinks nobody ever invaded someone’s home before guns existed lol, that’s on you.
Again, those were different times. I live in a country where it’s national news if something like a violent home invasion happens. Same with all the other countries around us.
You’re privileged enough to tell poor people in bad neighborhoods to “just move somewhere better bro”
If you live in a war zone, yeah, fleeing is the better option. I have friends who fled from war, who traveled from Iraq and Syria with nothing. If the alternative is a high probability of losing your life, I’d know what I’d chose.
Detroit is a city often tied to black people and poverty and was usually used as every racist uncle’s example
I chose Detroit as an example as it has high crime rates. You made it racist by assuming I meant black people. Wrong assumption.
Like I said I assume by “privileged European” you didn’t know that.
Indeed, I didn’t know you would find a way to change so. Thing I said into something racist. I may be a “privileged European” but I’ve been in wars myself, I’ve been homeless once, I’m unable to work anymore due to really bad PTSD due to my wartime experience, I’ve seen hundreds of people drown while fleeing from war, I’ve seen people being tortured, I’ve seen dead babies on the side of the road, etc. But what do I know about gun violence, being poor and surviving, right?
The issue I mostly have with Americans is their claim of having a monopoly on the truth, knowing everything better while not knowing anything from the rest of the world. You’re not much different so far.
Get rid of guns and violence will drastically decrease. Or you can just add more guns and enjoy killing each other The Purge style, as you all are so full of hate towards each other.
Yeah good luck with all that lol, it’s not happening anytime soon regardless and there’s no point wasting energy about it in this thread anymore. Unless you happen to have enough votes to overturn a constitutional amendment in your pocket we’ll have to agree to disagree for now.
In the US they voted for a dictator who taxes the poor and makes the rich oligarchs. Who gets rid of regulations for company profits, like food safety regulations and use of toxic chemicals in consumer products. It’s clear the US doesn’t want to change for the better. It’s just sad there are so many people who didnt vote for this, who were misinformed when voting, who weren’t allowed to vote. And many are the victim of this insane dystopian shit show. Not just domestic, also the estimated 600.000 people who died because USAID was scrapped. We lost our strongest ally while Russia is fighting a war with our next door neighbor while eyeballing our back garden. With the dumbest trade wars people are unable to pay for groceries and basic needs. People are being murdered near Venezuela. People are being taken by Gestapo-like forces, put in concentration camps while being under fed, dying, disappearing, being greatly mistreated.
This is what the US did and is doing. This is what people voted for, while the people who didn’t vote for this are just doing basically nothing, waiting for an even worse situation to come.
You wanted guns to rise up against the government in case you disagree, no cost too great to protect this right. Even the lives of children aren’t worth more. Well, go on then, this is your time to show why you have a second amendment. Rise up against fascism, before it’s too late.
Yhrt3e a difference to being able to buy a gun for a few hundred bucks in a supermarket and only being able to buy a questionable quality gun for several thousand euros on the black market, something which isn’t accessible to anyone (I don’t know anyone who sells guns for example). Sure, 3D printed guns are a thing too, but mostly because parts can be bought freely in the US which can me CNCed into workable parts. Those parts aren’t legal here either.
Those were different times. So you’re afraid of vikings invading if guns were to be banned?
The Dutch are super sarcastic. I’m autistic, I have a hard time picking it up, sorry.
Australia is a good example. They banned guns all at once, people got angry. Now they live without gun violence. Don’t say it’s not possible.
I’m not. Well, I am privileged to have been born here, that’s true. But I’ve seen a lot around the world. Nice places and horrific places (like Mogadishu for example) filled with terror. Because I’ve been to these places, not from reading about it on the internet. I haven’t been to the US though, but I have friends from there (from all around). I may be rich compared to people in Africa but also I have to live from paycheck to paycheck, don’t own a house, no car, no savings etc.
I don’t understand. Saying Detroit has a high crime rate is racist? Or saying not all places in the US have a high crime rate is racist? Could you explain it, I honestly don’t get it. Sorry.
There’s 600,000,000 out there already that are not going anywhere, the price isn’t going down any time soon even if we make them illegal. Not to mention pipe shotguns, the LutySMG, the FGC9, countless reloaders with tonnes of components, and trillions of rounds of stashed ammo across the whole US civilians’ collections, good luck. Even if people would comply with an Aus style buyback, that would be astronomically expensive at the scale required to even get the percentage of guns they got (which was like 20%, and they are now back up to their 1996 amount of guns at 3.2mil.)
You’re the one that thinks nobody ever invaded someone’s home before guns existed lol, that’s on you.
You’re privileged enough to tell poor people in bad neighborhoods to “just move somewhere better bro” because that’s exactly what you did. Do you think the people in bad neighborhoods stay for the ice cream trucks? No it’s because they can’t afford to move to a nicer area, hell sometimes the nicer area moves to them and pushes them out because now they can’t afford that neighborhood anymore, it’s called gentrification.
Detroit is a city often tied to black people and poverty and was usually used as every racist uncle’s example of racist bullshit, though now that is becoming Chicago it’s still basically a “Ah this is a 60-65yo republican I’m talking to” dogwhistle. Like I said I assume by “privileged European” you didn’t know that.
Guns are too. What do you think it costs in health care, police, intelligence services, dealing with bodies, loss of work force (as they are dead) etc? Why not stop deporting people, as that actually is astronomically expensive. You can just make excuses why to keep guns, saying it’s impossible, but is has been proven it’s possible and statistics show it works.
Again, those were different times. I live in a country where it’s national news if something like a violent home invasion happens. Same with all the other countries around us.
If you live in a war zone, yeah, fleeing is the better option. I have friends who fled from war, who traveled from Iraq and Syria with nothing. If the alternative is a high probability of losing your life, I’d know what I’d chose.
I chose Detroit as an example as it has high crime rates. You made it racist by assuming I meant black people. Wrong assumption.
Indeed, I didn’t know you would find a way to change so. Thing I said into something racist. I may be a “privileged European” but I’ve been in wars myself, I’ve been homeless once, I’m unable to work anymore due to really bad PTSD due to my wartime experience, I’ve seen hundreds of people drown while fleeing from war, I’ve seen people being tortured, I’ve seen dead babies on the side of the road, etc. But what do I know about gun violence, being poor and surviving, right?
The issue I mostly have with Americans is their claim of having a monopoly on the truth, knowing everything better while not knowing anything from the rest of the world. You’re not much different so far.
Get rid of guns and violence will drastically decrease. Or you can just add more guns and enjoy killing each other The Purge style, as you all are so full of hate towards each other.
Yeah good luck with all that lol, it’s not happening anytime soon regardless and there’s no point wasting energy about it in this thread anymore. Unless you happen to have enough votes to overturn a constitutional amendment in your pocket we’ll have to agree to disagree for now.
In the US they voted for a dictator who taxes the poor and makes the rich oligarchs. Who gets rid of regulations for company profits, like food safety regulations and use of toxic chemicals in consumer products. It’s clear the US doesn’t want to change for the better. It’s just sad there are so many people who didnt vote for this, who were misinformed when voting, who weren’t allowed to vote. And many are the victim of this insane dystopian shit show. Not just domestic, also the estimated 600.000 people who died because USAID was scrapped. We lost our strongest ally while Russia is fighting a war with our next door neighbor while eyeballing our back garden. With the dumbest trade wars people are unable to pay for groceries and basic needs. People are being murdered near Venezuela. People are being taken by Gestapo-like forces, put in concentration camps while being under fed, dying, disappearing, being greatly mistreated.
This is what the US did and is doing. This is what people voted for, while the people who didn’t vote for this are just doing basically nothing, waiting for an even worse situation to come.
You wanted guns to rise up against the government in case you disagree, no cost too great to protect this right. Even the lives of children aren’t worth more. Well, go on then, this is your time to show why you have a second amendment. Rise up against fascism, before it’s too late.