Dead internet
theoryrealityNah it sucked. I was on it. It was just lemmy but with less features and with less content. It was dead the moment it started because it did nothing.
I don’t understand how they even think it could succeed.
Right, but isn’t Lemmy itself a bit of a “less features” version of Reddit? I’m not here for features, I’m here to get away from toxic Reddit mods because fuck spez.
I’ll admit, I might have taken the bet that “reddit but not reddit” would hold at least some interest.
Kind of but decentralization really makes it up for it. Digg didn’t even have custom communities let alone decentralization.
I have my complaints with Lemmy but I was astounded with how bad Digg was. It’s like none of them actually used these community based apps.
People are naive to think there aren’t also thousands of bots here in the Fediverse.
I wonder if there is any inherent defence against slop on Lemmy. I guess if an instance doesn’t prune it’s user base of bots, shills and other slop merchants, it could be black listed by other admins of other instances.
No, but there is on PieFed.social. Mods and admins have functionality to check any post or comment for LLM-generated text. There’s more stuff too.
Generally I share my findings with Lemmy admins so they can ban the account.
I think this is a pretty big threat to the fediverse and social media in general and am taking it very seriously. At the moment the amount of slop is pretty low but we need to be ready for the deluge when it comes.
check any post or comment for LLM-generated text
Presumably with about the same tools that gleefully give false positives when checking school assignments.
This may come as a surprise to you so brace yourself.
I am not stupid.
Well, firstly, I’ve seen the Piefed code.
Secondly, I doubt it that you have some magical accurate AI-detection tools, and Digg and Reddit don’t.
Your AI detection tools are really helpful, thanks for all your hard work.
My instance bans non-consensual AI content and users. Rimu’s tools have made that a lot easier to do, I get an alert when the system detects a possible AI user.
VPNs on lemmy = punishable by … 👇that’s a bot.
If there are, theyre not very active
I’ve been noticing a lot more definitely-AI-generated “blogposts” and full-on ads in my Mastodon hashtag feeds.
It’s a fairly new thing.
75% of the accounts I’ve had to ban in the roughly-two-years since I spun up my instance have been AI slopfaucets that popped up in the last 2 weeks.
I tried using it and was kinda hopeful, but NSFW was against their TOS which is a no go.
Not on my wholesome christian server /s
*Holesome 😏
LOL…
Prude and ambicious. Executives these days…
Their tolerance of racism and bigotry was why I left
It seemed like every shitty person wanted to make it a far-right safe place
I’m glad it failed
those were the bots
I had interactions with a few, and they were very much the typical, stupid, bigoted yank
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Is it a slur if these people are proud of it?
yes.
it’s no different than calling an Italian a wop or a chink for an Asian.
It’s crazy how little I value your opinion
you valued my opinion enough to respond. I’d say that’s enough.
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centrists Ideals are a bit more subtle some what a ballance of chaos Haha.
That reminds me, 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0.
Straight off to jail with you!
For those who don’t remember this- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy
I know about it, but didn’t recognize the code. So I assumed, they encoded some text to make it harder to read. So I tried decoding it.
Turns out, if you decode this in UTF-16, it turns into a japanese sentence
契ȑ璝寣䇘앖噣삈
Which means (according to DeepL)
The sound of the wind rustling through the trees
And now I’m confused, why.
That’s not Japanese, there’s some Chinese and Korean characters in there too. Turns out if you decode random bytes as UTF chars you will probably get a CJK character lol
OK, yes, that obviously makes sense, considering the amount of these Charakters.
oh wow that is dumb you are right.
Thanks for the link I never remembered the numbers to know if it was for that or not…course been online long enough to know that’s the code (style) shown in comments. Was a lot of comments at one point.
My only unsureness of the code is cause I’m old and miss newer stuff so had to check to be sure.
lol I still have a screenshot of Digg from when every article on the home page had this key in it.
Did they really demand a key be removed like . Ehhh this why you should use cryptographic tokenization, non static securities… . Ehhh lol.
Yup.
The problem is, how do you guarantee access control that works offline?DVD DRM was based on a pretty simple system that was easy to crack.
HD-DVD (former blu-ray competitor) DRM was more advanced. Someone hacked a software player and extracted its decode key, which this was.
The DRM was designed to be updateable so any discs manufactured after this leak would use different keys (and anyone using the software app that’d been hacked would need an update). That didn’t stop this key from working on every disc in existence at the time.That’s the problem with making software decoding available. It had to work offline, so you could have an authorized player software, and feed it any valid disk, and it’d Just Work. So even if you put a crypto enclave in the drive controller, the player software still needs its own way to authenticate itself to the drive.
aside from like, I mean I see your point there. I have been doing a little work here and there studying Quantum based keying and security. Even being one the more well rounded casual internet individuals with a greater technicality of understanding said stuff. It still scares me, if not more so being able to see when even my own capacity to keep up with it all that or even just the complexity of these new age Ai systems does get to me, not gona lie about that. Watching my own abilities to not just know but even the tail end of conceptual break down of not what exactly powers these things nor at what line they have or the validity of the Ai’s own thinking and its true or not understandings “those things I get and can wrap my mind around” But lately fully being able to keep up with i.e. I will give you one or so examples that does and even scares me half to death, because I not only have no idea entirely at said point, but what I do know is an Ai of such magnitude would supersede mine and likely the majority if not all human technical capabilities, stuff like Quantum cognition architectures are quite hard to wrap the brain around, and with Latent‐Space these days exceeding either parties full understanding, no Ai nor human can currently fully explain whats happening in some the latest or future conceptual GAi: generative Ai tandems of systems. They say blackbox, but we understand most “blackbox” atleast conceptually, some the newest algorithmic and multi modality systems though become any ones guess. I myself am just hoping at this point to keep up with Quantum related security protocols and possible insights on research into such things.
Please share.
Its good that you have enough self-control to hand over your keys when you’ve had too much to drink.
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Apparently you can get that sequence from an AI bot if you ask it “correctly”. But rules for thee and all that.
breh why is this going around the net… 🥺gahat is this… 🤣
Remember the Ron Paul mania on Digg?
Wasn’t AI part of their “selling” point?
If it was, it was a bad stratagy.
AI is the only industry that is somehow nonprofitable, without customers, and yet also propping up the economy right now.
Just waiting for this stupid bubble to pop
I mean, reddit only got big because Digg made some very stupid moves before, so … pretty on brand
Reddit was doing fine before the influx from Digg. That’s one of the reasons people migrated to reddit in the first place - because it was already viable. That said, it was an influx of users, for sure.
It was better before the influx from Digg imo
“we’re reddit, but with AI!”
I noped so hard away from digg
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I guess. I don’t use Reddit’s AI. But Digg specifically billed itself as Reddit + AI. I got early beta access, and it was exactly that: Reddit + shitty AI summaries.
Ai HyperFictional. Don’t get lost in allat.
Right? Weren’t they making some AI podcast or something as well?
None of that sounded good.
blaming? shouldnt they have celebrated how much people utilize their beloved slopmachines?
Dude an idiotic thing is one of the biggest sellers for dig was their stupid AI slop notifications that helped tell you what the article was about. I fucking hated that so much.
they are just hoping to datamine JUST like reddit to profit of its user, but worst. a corporate structure like diggs wouldnt eventually want to use AI so they can sell the data to GOOGLE, or other large AI to train on.
They had their own AI built in that summarize everything.
Haha … … slop?
Honestly, the first rebirth as a run-of-the-mill article aggregator was better. A lot of it I’d have already seen elsewhere, but occasionally it’d have something interesting that I missed.
Whatever they do, they’ll still be riding the name of a very dead horse.
Basically this, yes haha
There were entire communities popping up dedicated to SEO and advertising. A lot of the spam would happen during the US night time, so they’d have to wake up every morning to sweeping away all the crap. Really curious on how they intend to handle the bots.
I was curious how they planned to monetize, but some questions are pointless to ask - all you’ll get are the responses prepared for maximal PR value…
I think I had read somewhere that they would eventually have ads, but that may have just been member speculation.
Maybe if they go down the Apollo route they could have some sub tiers, but we’ll see.
well duh, reddit/X/Insta, MEta,etc is infested by AI BOT/bot spammers for a while to spread propaganda or do things like promote links of OF, or other businesses. thats the other reason why they are very ban heavy as of late. diggs or any other platform would suffer the same fate.
Hey now let’s be fair, not all of it is AI propaganda. Some of it is shrimp Jesus. Mind you that also started as propaganda but it’s since devolved into something so much more fascinating, namely because how the fuck do you even get to shrimp Jesus.
Man. I liked Digg. Not as much as Lemmy, but I liked it.
I liked Digg right up until they folded like a cheap suit over the HD DVD decryption key.
The what? I’m ignorant here.
Going off memory here, but I’m pretty sure someone posted the master decryption key, without any context. Just, ‘123cf7’…etc.
Without any context, it’s just a random string of letters and numbers. Absolutely free speech. With context, it’s a violation of the DMCA.
Yes, and Digg removed it as quickly as they could before realizing you can’t stop the signal.
folded like a cheap suit
Funnier because of all the T-shirts printed with that key on them.
I had one.
One of the complaints I had about the place was how AI positive it was, I guess that explains it.
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democracydemocratization manifest.Are you waiting to accept my limp comment?
They should bring back google circles
Unironically. But only on the condition they bring back Google from 2011
THAT’S WHAT IT WAS CALLED! I’ve been trying to remember lol.
