Griffin added more details to her initial post, writing, “A senior US official tells me that it was a US military strike on Iran’s Qeshm port and Bandar Abbas moments ago but added this is NOT a restarting of the war or end to the ceasefire.”
So, is the ceasefire over, or are we just doing an Israel-style ceasefire?
Actually, what he meant was a seas-fire, hence the bombing of a coastal city /s
You cease, we fire
Iran is not Gaza. If the usa don’t cease , Iran will not cease. Even hizbollah no longer accept isrsel breach if the cease fire and are back at full scaled retaliation
AFAIK the ceasefire ever existing was a myth? Trump just kinda declared it without anyone else agreeing and then everyone kept shooting anyway, Trump included.
Since Iran retaliated I would say the cease fire is done
The ceasefire was done when the us attacked iran
That’s why I said retaliated. It mean the usa restarted the hostilities first
Regardless of retaliation, if there is a ceasefire, and someone shoots from one side to the other, even without a retaliation, the ceasefire is violated.
Actually the cease fire become null and Iran has the right to retaliate, which they did.
That’s what I said. https://lemmy.world/comment/23627380
Yes iran has the right to retaliate
Maybe it was a misunderstanding but your first reply to mind felt like it meant that I did not acknowledge that the USA was the one who broke it. I guess we agreed from the start
Not a restarting of the war? LMAO this administration thinks we are STUPID.
The most significant issue with an idiot is that they will always assume that everyone around them is less intelligent than they are.
The Dunning-Cougar effect. I know this one and I’m never wrong.
Dunning-Kruger?
Whooooosh
I mean you guys did vote him in
Twice.
TWICEThe first time was moronic, but the second is unforgivable. Just unforgivable.
Please, stop assuming every US citizen voted for Trump. A lot of them didn’t, and you most likely have no idea whether the person you replied to is one of them.
These kind of comments are becoming tiresome and doesn’t help anyone; and they certainly doesn’t bring anything to the discussion.
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@lemmy.ca . The user you replied to seems to be canadian.
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It’s just a demented military operation…
Well, a large percentage of the US is stupid.
Most Americans can’t read at a 12th grade level.
More than half the adult population can’t read at a grade 6 level.
Yep, that’s the whole most Americans are functionally illiterate. I know. We’re mostly a lost cause.
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Yeah but we’re talking about America where education through the 12th grade is compulsory. By virtue of passing every American with a high school education should be capable of analyzing and consuming media at a pre-collegiate level. More than half can’t do it at even a sixth grade level. Half of Americans are functionally illiterate. Just look at any reddit thread or any America centric fediverse thread.
You can be bad at school and still be smart in many different aspects.
No.
It thinks Republicans are. Because passivity from the Republicans in the Senate is all he needs to keep the war going. I certainly have no faith in the military to reject unlawful orders themselves.
thinks we are STUPID.
the majority of the country voted for him or abstained… so yes… amerikkka is stupid
Tbh our country re-elected him so I can see why they’d get that impression
Basic article, but news snippets & headlines (sans article reading) can work the same way. As one example, we are now seeing pregnant women shun Tylenol, not for anything specific they remember, just a vague “I heard it could be bad for the baby.”
MAGA knows what they say in brief sound bites, on repeat, can and will have similar impact.
Not on all. But they don’t need all. They just need enough absorbing the info in this way to keep us divided and forever following different information.
Nah, they think you’re powerless. And they’re generally right.
It’s true statement and a sad one. People need to turn that around, they are not powerless, but they are conditioned to think so.
You hold the power…if you choose it. You are not ants to be squished.
This administration thinks we’re as drunk as they are
but added this is NOT a restarting of the war or end to the ceasefire
What in the fuck? When Iran retaliates, are these people gonna cry that Iran broke the ceasefire?
This is so childish.
Straight from Russian playbook. Just straight up lie in front of the whole world. Your fanatics will believe you anyways and the doubters won’t know who to trust.
As a “doubter,” I know not to trust a single word ever said by Trump. The only thing that matters are his actions, because those can be read no matter what he wants me to think.
How to tell if the orange kid-fucker is lying…
…his mouth is open
Not necessarily, he lies via text all the time.
Where are those Iraqi nukes, George?
its been the american playbook since at least the gulf of tonkin which brought us into the vietnam war. its nothing new that donny is getting from his bff putin.
If you think for a moment the government didn’t know some shenanigans was up on the Pearl harbor invasion… Rest assured they knew something was going to happen they didn’t expect Pearl harbor to be it… but the powers that be we’re looking for something to justify the United States entering the war
the pacific side. yeah. i dont disagree.
I’m tired of all this bullshit always the same playbook
If anything, Russia is using the long established playbook belonging to the US.
They are going to say that literally nothing is breaking the cease fire, unless Iran does something large enough to rile up the US population.
The moment the ceasefire is “broken” they need to go before congress and get their stamp of approval on the war. But so long as they are in a ceasefire, they don’t have to do that.
So they are going to continue with the war, but constantly claim that their acts of war aren’t breaking the cease fire, so they still aren’t at war, so they still don’t need congress.
Yes.
Y’all are missing the point of saying it’s not a resumption. Of course it is. But they have to lie. If they admit they’re resuming, it means they’re in violation of the war powers act by going past 60 days. I expect the next lie will be that actually, this is a totally new military operation and the clock has reset.
And when they need to justify the war they claim we’ve been at war with Iran for 47 years.
Each lie is made for each argument or question they are addressing and does not need to be consistent with prior lies.
Neat thing about the war powers act is all the president has to do is tell Congress they need 30 more days to “wind-down” operations. Then they get 30 free more days to do whatever
Nobody is forced to accept lies
They were already in violation of the War Powers Resolution/Act when they started the war (not a defensive operation), but now they are even more in violation.
this is NOT a restarting of the war or end to the ceasefire
Fires
“This is not an end to the ceasefire”
Now they’re gonna wait for Iran to fire back and say they broke the ceasefire.
The old Israeli approach to ceasefires.
I mean how can you cease firing if you aren’t firing?
Checkmate atheists
“Time in. Tag, you’re it. Time out.”
it’s just a tribute
Huh. And here’s me thinking a cease fire means you ceased firing.
No, these are just ‘love taps’
You can’t restart a war that never ended or end a cease-fire that never started
This is a new operation: ’ Giant Clusterfuck’
At some point, words still need to mean SOMETHING so at least a transfer of information happens. At this rate, by next year they’ll be down to pointing and grunting.
Trump doesn’t even respect the ceasefire
He can’t spell ceasefire. Or Iran. Or USA
Ah OK
Apparently this was a “love tap”. Only a man with the sexual history of Donny the Demented would think that.
Well he probably thinks Qeshm was asking for it by dressing that way …
“Us firing during a ceasefire doesn’t cease the cease fire.” Hegseth probably
Alternative ceasefire
Sundowning Preznit Fuckwit is bigly mad because the trumpstein files are being brought up again.
There. That is why bombs are being dropped. Because a pedo doesn’t like when you shame his child raping activities.
Once Iran reports on it then I might start to believe it.
I can’t wait for Iran to release another series of satellite pics of even more expensive pedophile assets being turned into smoking craters.
Peace talks are progressing in the typical Israeli fashion I see
