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  • it does happen from time to time… 😆

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593

    Aeroflot Flight 593 was a scheduled international passenger flight from Sheremetyevo International Airport, Moscow, Russia, to Kai Tak Airport in Hong Kong. On 23 March 1994, the aircraft operating the route, an Airbus A310-304 flown by Aeroflot, crashed into the Kuznetsk Alatau mountain range in Kemerovo Oblast, killing all 63 passengers and 12 crew members on board.

    Cockpit voice and flight data recorders revealed the presence of the relief captain’s teenaged children in the cockpit at the time of the accident.[1] While seated at the controls, the pilot’s 15-year-old son had unknowingly partially disengaged the A310’s autopilot control of the aircraft’s ailerons.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0644763/











  • they deserved to be harmed.

    most people do not deserve to be harmed.

    it is a hyperbole - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

    and it is commonly used phrase in a situation where you face consequences of your own bad decision. so if you are discussing in good faith, stop deflecting.

    For the first part, how do you know it is a sketchy neighborhood?

    it is generally known information. this is a sketchy neighborhood and everyone in the city, including me, knows that.

    You could easily walk into a situation you have no way to know is a bad situation through no fault of your own.

    yes, i could have, but that is not what happened in the case i am describing, so lets not deflect and talk about the case i am presenting.

    If you get robbed, the blame still falls on the perpetrator. The person did not deserve to be robbed.

    the blame is on both of us. the robber should not rob me, but i KNOWINGLY committed risky act and faced the consequences.

    • “why did you do it?”
    • “well, they shouldn’t have robbed me”
    • “but why the fuck would you do it, everyone knows this couldn’t end well”
    • “but they shouldn’t have robbed me”
    • “NOT THE FUCKING POINT. WHY DID YOU DO SOMETHING SO RISKY, when you could have just walked around?”

    The car analogy does not have anything to do with this situation. You would be walking into a space where you knew you were likely to get hurt

    the car analogy has everything to do with the situation. you commit risky act, because you so focus on your perceived “rights” that you forget to use your brain. sometime you have to act to protect your rights, and if you don’t, naively believing that everyone will just respect them, that you will sometimes end up facing consequences.

    All of the little details point to this not being the case and they just mentioned the gynecologist for engagement bait.

    all the little details point to exactly nothing. the gynecologist might very well be just engagement bait, in which case this discussion is indeed pointless.



  • Later it states 1193 videos were made from 133,000 cameras that were hacked, so while nobody but the people with the data can say for sure, it is quite possible it was just a lobby camera.

    ok, that’s fair point. i will admit i have originally reacted just to copied lede without reading the details, i did not really expect that remark to turn into such discussion.

    Yes, but your argument is that people should have gone elsewhere. People are just giving you pretty reasonable explanations as to why they might not have simply gone to another doctor.

    and that argument stays. if the camera was in fact visible in the exam room (speculation indeed), then walking away would be the only reasonable reaction. i assume that some first line gynecologist don’t perform some critical emergency procedures (and even if so, they would be just fraction of their services) that would really not allow you to wait and go elsewhere. sooner or later, someone should notice and raise an alarm.

    Assuming the camera was visible and in the exam room is just that, an assumption

    of course it is an assumption. i am reacting within some parameters outside of which this discussion does not make sense.

    You can justify victim blaming all you want, but the fact of the matter is the blame lies solely on the perpetrator.

    advocating common sense is not victim blaming. playing a victim card is not going to help you when something bad happens to you. https://lemmy.zip/post/54116147/23096002

    You can, and should, have situational awareness, but that is something that comes with experience and practice. Not everyone can prepare for every situation.

    and one should assume that at least some of the women who were patients there had one. it only takes one person to raise an alarm in situation like that.


  • It shouldn’t matter!

    it shouldn’t matter, but it does. shouting about it on the internet does not change that. and it is not even about sex. if i go to some sketchy neighborhood with 20k$ camera around my neck, i am asking for a trouble, and it is smart thing to think about it beforehand and adapt. whether it should or shouldn’t matter does not matter (pun intended).

    it is like a pedestrian walking in front of a speeding car, getting hit by it and then complaining “they were in the right”. how does it matter, when you are still the one being hit by a car?

    You don’t know anything about the context or what patients have said and done in this clinic. You just assume everyone knew about it and was OK with it.

    You don’t know anything about the context or what patients have said and done in this clinic. You just assume everyone knew about it and was OK with it.

    yeah, i am speculating little bit. but if there were some sensitive materials captured, that means the camera was running for some time and no one did anything so impactful it would change. i am not expert of south korean law, but such camera would be major breach of privacy and straight up illegal anywhere in eu, and i assume in us as well, i see their hipaa cited often.


  • It says nothing about it being in an exam room, could have been in the lobby

    i’ll go out on a limb here and say that records from the lobby don’t make very good “sexploitation” material

    Could have been hidden as others have said

    the article is about camera hacks, not cameras hidden by some peeping tom

    Could have simply gone unnoticed since people would not expect a camera in exam rooms

    “some” might not, but again, there is no indication these were purposely hidden cameras, so lot of them should.

    There are a lot of people to potentially blame here, none of which are the victims

    being a victim does not absolve you of responsibility. it does not make any assault that may have happened to you allright, but if you contributed to a situation with a bad decision, the fact you were attacked suddenly does not change that decision into smart one.

    https://lemmy.zip/post/54116147/23095684