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    Wrong. Dead fucking wrong. Due to our current shitty system the only parties with any chance of winning are Dems or GOP, every vote that doesn’t go to the Dems is another point the GOP has over them. If you don’t vote for Dems you’re facilitating fascism. Simple as.

    I don’t like our choices but we don’t have the option to be fucking picky right now, there’s fascists at the door and they’re working hard to ruin our lives.

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            Democrats, at worst, are centrist, not right wing. If you can’t comprehend basic terminology then perhaps this is not the community for you.

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              if you threaten to ban people who know what fascism is and what lexicographers’ jobs are. maybe this isn’t the right community for me

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              https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

              Dictionaries are often treated as the final arbiter in arguments over a word’s meaning, but they are not always well suited for settling disputes. The lexicographer’s role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used, and they say nothing about the intrinsic nature of the thing named or described by a word, much less the significance it may have for individuals. When discussing concepts like racism, therefore, it is prudent to recognize that quoting from a dictionary is unlikely to either mollify or persuade the person with whom one is arguing.

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      voting for the lesser evil will only serve to guarantee that you will forever be voting for the lesser evil and that you will reach the same evil that the alternative raced towards, but slower.

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        Thats really poetic but observe our choices in reality in relation to the systems we built to usher them in. You don’t cut your parachute just because you’re falling anyway.

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        My god, what a stupid take.

        The lesser evil is by definition the better choice! If you refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils, you are effectively choosing the greater evil. It does not get any stupider than that.

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          If you refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils,

          you are choosing not to vote for evil.

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              in the trolley scenario, i don’t touch the lever. you can choose to be a murderer, but i won’t.

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                In the trolley scenario, you chose to let 6 people die. Neither choice makes you a murderer. But one choice causes much more harm than the other.

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                    This is exactly the kind of situation the trolley problem was invented to illustrate… and I’ve never seen anyone fail at it so badly with such a weird take.

                    You’ll allow the greater evil to happen because you don’t want to have any part or any responsibility in helping a lesser evil happen. But you do have responsibility, because you do have a choice. In the trolley problem, f you never knew about the lever, you couldn’t be asked to pull it or not. In the election problem, if you can’t vote you have no responsibility. But the trolley problem states you know about the lever, and in the election scenario, you do have a vote. So you are involved no matter what. And that means you’re just as guilty as the person who acted; only your action resulted in more deaths than the person who acted either way. Yours was the worst possible choice.

                    Try flipping the words from evil to good. The greater evil is worse, and the lesser evil is better. Therefore, you are choosing the worse scenario rather than the better one. It’s ridiculously absurd.