And you all told me the blue maga border bill that Republicans rejected was 4d chess.
Why though? It’s been proven and shown with many many video recordings that the so-called “border crisis” is completely made up. Yes, there are a lot of people at the border seeking asylum, but it’s not a horde of people a la World War Z forming a human tidal wave crashing over the Rio Grande.
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The GOP has cried wolf so loudly and for so long that now no one believes them.
The US-Mexico border is 1,951 miles long. You can’t capture the issue with a video or photograph.
And no, it is not made up. See for yourself. Border encounters spiked hard, but dropped just as hard for January. No idea what’s going on there.
In any case, look at the yearly numbers for a better picture. For 2024 we’ll easily top 1-million extra migrants over 2021’s numbers. Yeah, we got a problem.
How are we to employ and house 3+ million souls? And that’s just for 2024. This will require a new major city worth of infrastructure, every year. Don’t we bitch about rent pricing around here? Hold onto your butts.
And go tell Denver it’s all made up. Dare ya.
https://www.denverpost.com/2024/02/21/denver-budget-cuts-migrant-crisis-recreation-center-hours/
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/12/us/denver-colorado-migrants.html
I’ve always been staunchly against illegal immigration for that reason.We’re already in a cost of living crisis. The country is full. I wish the Democrats would realize that by continuing to allow illegal immigration, it lowers the cost of labor, and in turn and crushes the working class’ collective bargaining power. I’m not gonna go vote for an insurrectionist traitor that will cut Bezos’ tax bill to fix it though, but straight up, idk why people even want to come here anymore. 20 years ago, I get it, but now everything is expensive and you’re not going to make it Washing dishes and picking fruit.
The country is far from full. We have cities in a few states that dwarf the population of entire other states.
The cost of living crisis is manufactured. And we as a society could choose to end it tomorrow.
Agreed, but adding to demand without relieving supply does us no favors. If we banned Air BNB and corporate landlords of single family homes, this problem would be gone tomorrow, but that’s not going to happen.
Reducing demand does no favors either because the cost of living is artificial. Demand is irrelevant.
I mean, it’s definitely still relevant. If everyone just said fuck it n moved into Hooverviles tomorrow, cost of housing would go down with no one to occupy/ pay for the housing. They are restricting supply. The only way to combat it beyond asking for legislators to actually do their fucking job is to decrease demand.
They’re restricting supply by buying up empty housing and hoarding it (and manipulating zoning laws and buying off city councils and getting the “right” ordinances passed etc). There isn’t actually a shortage of housing, just a shortage of “available” housing. You can’t fix that by shutting down the border. They’ll just hoard even more to compensate.
Im sure the democrats will stand up against this like they did when Trump did it. Lol what a joke.
It’s just a virtue signal that Dems appropriated from Repubs as the Overton Window has shifted to the right. In actually neither of them will do anything to affect real change because too many companies make a shitload of money exploiting the fuck out of immigrants. Then these assholes get to scapegoat these same immigrants as some kind of root cause for how the middle class is
doing worsegetting fucked over while Wall Street keeps breaking records. If the minimum wage had kept up with inflation, it would be over $20.I won’t rehash my opinions, they already been better said here, but I want to add I hate the phrase “close the border”. What the fuck does that mean, was it open, did the last one in forget to close the door?
From the article, he is considering taking action “to restrict migrants’ ability to seek asylum at the US-Mexico border if they crossed illegally” which has a lot more nuance and is important to the discussion. So this will specifically affect people who have a legitimate claim to asylum, the border was never “open” to any migrants without it (or a visa).
“Close the border” is ridiculous rhetoric which appeals to far too many of the electorate. Unfortunately, we need to change opinions on the ground before it’s no longer viable to use.
I’ve keep being put into a position where I have to further my consideration in voting for Biden.
He’s the strongest the Democrats can muster, we can’t have any one else (but please don’t criticize him, he’s incredibly weak, a strong breeze will knock him over). Hes the best option we’ve got to stop a Palestinian genocice (oh except earlier today he vetoed a vote via the UN that could have stopped the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people). But we have to vote Biden because Trump would probably be worse (even though, you know, Biden is the one right now supporting the genocide. not hypothetical).
If you think this delusional policy is defensible, right here right now, you are part of the problem.
NO right wing voter is going to support Biden. PERIOD. NONE. You will ONLY get votes for Biden stepping to the left. Literally every Democratic victory in 60 fucking years have happened that way. But yeah, keep pursuing these genocidal right of Rumsfield positions, Democrats. I"m sure you’ll find that center once you have cripwalked past Cheny’s undead beating heart of evil.
THe entire last decade of political progress made by progressives has been lost because of this idiot.
You will ONLY get votes for Biden stepping to the left.
This is fucking delusional. Democrats are not all further to the left than Biden - you’ll never get conservative votes, but you can sure as shit lose moderate Democrats. And the only leftists not voting Dem at this point, with ‘Day-One Dictator’ running, are people who run fucking purity tests and won’t be satisfied until Biden is waving a red flag. Which, while amusing, is not a realistic way to win an election in the current US.
Listen, I will be voting for Biden, who is clearly worlds better than Trump. But the idea that Palestinian Americans who won’t vote for someone funding the ethnic cleansing of their own family members are “purity test” losers is…well, its a take.
Yeah, no, if the opinion is that “This decades-long US policy of supporting a foreign country isn’t ending now, therefore, everyone in the US and in Palestine can get fucked, including me and all of my family members”, that’s not an opinion worth taking seriously.
You can say it’s an understandable emotional reaction, but it sure as shit isn’t a reasonable one.
What’s unreasonable is acting like not supporting the active genocide of your own people is unreasonable.
Especially since you’re conflating genocide with apartheid.
I have friends that have lost the ENTIRETY of their extended families, you sick fuck.
Mother, father, sisters, brothers, cousins, aunts and uncles all murdered in a single fucking night.
I’m pretty sure that you wouldn’t be capable of looking them in the eye and saying the same thing. Or, at least, not if you had any human decency.
Edit: changed lost to murdered because they didn’t just mysteriously die.
This frames voting for Biden as a white man’s burden to save Palestinians from their own emotions. Surely you see a problem here?
You lefties make me want to vote for trump. I’ve been a Democrat my entire life but I hate being associated with you idiots. Biden is a strong president and has done far more good than any president in the past 50 years but you’re too far up hasan pikers ass to see it.
If I see one more “lefty” talking shit about Biden, I’m voting for trump and getting the other fence centers to do so. And I hope he leaves NATO and abandons Palestine to be left a crater so you idiots can finally have a reason to cry (wouldn’t matter since you’re always crying).
Biden is a strong president and has done far more good than any president in the past 50 years but you’re too far up hasan pikers ass to see it.
In the interests of furthering discussion, what are some of these good deeds he did that you see as remarkable?
Lowest unemployment rate in the last 50 years
Got us out of Afghanistan
Debt relief for student loans
Cracked down on COVID and made real efforts to eradicate it
Need more?
Lowest unemployment rate in the last 50 years
In the months prior to the pandemic, the unemployment rate during the Trump administration was below 4% for nearly 20 straight months — there was one exception in that stretch, when the rate was 4% in January 2019.
Had Biden set the threshold a tick higher, at or below 4% — instead of simply below 4% — then “the longest stretch in over 50 years” would have occurred under the president he beat in 2020 and may face again in 2024: Donald Trump.
During the Trump administration, there were 24 straight months when the unemployment rate was at or below 4%, starting in March 2018 and ending in February 2020, before the devastating economic effects of the pandemic kicked in.
By that measure, an unemployment rate at or below 4%, the Biden administration is currently riding a streak of 20 straight months — the longest stretch in over three years.
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/08/biden-cherry-picks-unemployment-record/
But trump had the worst unemployment rate because of his mishandling of COVID. Two of my examples. Funny how you tried to focus in a single point (and failed) and ignored the others.
You’re not good at this 😂😂😂
Imagine thinking that your candidate is above criticism for enabling a genocide 🤡
Go ahead and do what you’re going to do. If someone correctly criticizing Biden for being too right-wing makes you want to vote for Trump, you never had any principles anyway.
Criticism is fair play and he should be criticized for funding any war as a whole BUT Israel is our ally. That’s just how it goes. Although 28,000 deaths and counting is pretty messed up - I just don’t see how it’s our/Biden’s fault.
Biden’s team somehow thinks that enacting republican policies are going to win him more democrat voters?
Either that or Biden has been a republican this whole time and is enacting policy he openly supports.
Leaning towards the second option, but man. Biden is going to lose the fuck out of this election.
I don’t think there’s much he could do at this point to win my vote. He’s already doubled down on every issue I care about.
And I’m definitely not alone. Fuck neoliberals.
And fyi. I don’t fucking care if the other guy is worse. Please stop saying that shit over and over again.
Biden thinks you will vote for him no matter what, and so is going to focus on winning over so-called “moderate Republicans”
Watch him get even worse as the election gets closer.
In my humble POV I believe closing the border with the #1 business partner of the US isn’t a good idea.
It’s a power move. He closes it. The GOP cries because money. Their base’s heads explode.
And more refugees die.
I don’t know why you think that would matter to Biden. He already kept in place Trump era policies on Asylum seeking outside official entry points and even wants people to stay in the country they seek to escape until they have our permission to start their journey.
Looking back at it I think his stance on immigration was our warning that he was going to be the farthest right democratic president yet.
Absolutely disgusting. I don’t know how I can vote for this despicable person again. Appalling. Democrats are supposedly the good party?
Give me one reason to vote for this fascist that isn’t “he’s not Trump.”
P.S. Willem van Spronsen was a hero, and I wish we all could follow his example.
Fuck your imaginary border.
Will you vote for the truly fascist trump, or just throw your vote away?
They’ll be in line for the death camps with the rest of us loudly proclaiming “At least I didn’t vote for JOE BIDEN”
At this rate Biden is going to open bipartisan death camps and you’ll say “good thing we stopped TRUMP!”
Like the people currently in the death camp that is Palestine?
I didn’t realize I lived in Israel and was voting for Israeli politicians?
You vote for Zionist politicians in every American election dawg
Israel is the 51st State
I already threw my vote away by voting for someone who continued Trump’s fascist border policy. ThRoW yOuR vOtE aWaY wake the fuck up, Biden is just more Trump, and his supporters are just as unhinged and cultlike. All you do is parrot the same tired lies.
Biden is just more Trump, and his supporters are just as unhinged and cultlike.
lmao.
Facts. Look at any thread where Biden is rightly criticized for these fascist politicies
Guys guys, I’m not voting for the guy that followed the law that Trump made. Instead I’m gonna vote for a dictator “for a day”, or throw it away and help the person that wants to be a dictator.
People I swear.
He’s using innocent immigrants and refugees as political pawns. If that doesn’t alarm you, then I’ve got nothing to say to you.
Welcome to fucking politics. If I was an immigrant I’d rather be used as a pawn temporarily than be the next target of the fascist dictator.
“Biden considers vague unspecified action on a subject that over 70% of the American electorate considers a problem, clearly Both Sides are Just As Bad”
What? That’s not a quote from the article. What are the sides you’re even talking about? The borders sides?
I consider it a problem and I consider abolishing the border a solution.
We are not the same.
