…
Who can forget when the former Fox News host Megyn Kelly declared in 2013 that Jesus, like Santa Claus, “was a White man, too,” and “that’s a verifiable fact,” a remark she later said was meant in jest.
…
First, while the classic Nordic Jesus remains a popular image today in some churches, a movement to replace the White Jesus has long taken root in America. In many Christian circles — progressive mainline churches, churches of color shaped by “liberation theology,” and among Biblical scholars — conspicuous displays of the White Jesus are considered outdated, and to some, offensive. In a rapidly diversifying multicultural America, more Christians want to see a Jesus that looks like them.
But in some parts of the country, the White Jesus never left. The spread of White Christian nationalism has flooded social media feeds with images of the traditional White Jesus, sometimes adorned with a red MAGA hat. Former President Trump is selling a “God Bless the USA Bible” with passages from the Constitution and Bill of Rights — a linking of patriotism with Christianity that reinforces a White image of Jesus that is central to Christian nationalism.
…
Blum says the image of a White Jesus has been used to justify slavery, lynching, laws against interracial marriage and hostility toward immigrants deemed not White enough. When Congress passed a law in the early 20th century to restrict immigration from Asia, Southern and Eastern Europe, White politicians evoked the White Jesus, he says.
“One of the arguments was, ‘Well, Jesus was White,’ ‘’ Blum says. “So the theme was, we want America to be profoundly Christian or at least Jesus based, so we should only allow White people in this country.”
The MAGA movement uses the image of a White Jesus to weaponize political battles, he says, pointing to signs at the January 6 insurrection displaying a White Jesus, sometimes wearing a red MAGA hat. To Blum, some Christian conservatives see a White MAGA Jesus as “an anti-woke symbol.”
Imaginary mythological creatures can look however you like.
Which is why Korean Jesus is best Jesus.
And ripped AF
There’s no way that dude fell three times while carrying the cross
The cross could be nailed to HIM!
He felled three trees to make new crosses after he reduced the last one to splinters by accident.
It was three lunges, Jesus ahead of his time, , they just hadn’t heard of leg day back then.
You don’t want to run into a biblically accurate Jesus though. Those things are scary.
Stupid sexy Jesus
🥵
Ethiopain Jesus has nice eyes
Ethiopian Jesus looks like an emoji
Much like Bill Bailey, Ethiopian Jesus is a bald man with long hair.
In what world would there be a blonde guy in the middle East, what a crazy ass conversation to keep having.
Unbelievable this question is even being asked and just goes to show how little thought people engage in when it comes to religion. If he existed at all of course he would look like any brown/dark skinned person living in the area thousands of years ago.
White skinned, blonde, blue eyed phenotype occurs in Middle East for ages.
The idea that Jesus couldn’t be white because he was from Palestine is just an extension of a common US racist worldview that makes “muslim” a race and views Middle East as a valid non-white target. It’s nearly as stupid as the idea that Jesus’ skin color matters.
Holy shit you just brought to my attention that Jesus was in fact born in the Palestinian area. I knew that but it didnt click till now. That means Jewish people, who killed Jesus, are now trying to destroy and take over what wouldve been his homeland. How can any Christian who believes in Jesus side with Israel as they’re trying to take over and kill everyone. Im not religious but fuck man thats twisted how the whole world got brainwashed to allow such a thing to happen.
Wow ive gotten at least a couple down votes. I saw this at 3 and now it’s back down to 1.
Theres no debate anymore, the people who killed jesus are now trying to destroy his homeland and take it over. Thats a fact.
the people who killed Jesus
This is clear-cut Christian antisemitism, the justification for more than a millenia of discrimination and ultimately culminating in the Holocaust. You are implying present day Jews have the collective responsibility of killing Jesus.
Also, you are equating Judaism with Israel, which is done by both zionists and antisemites.
are trying to destroy his homeland and take it over
Palestine the country is not Palestine the region. Israel has control over large parts of Palestine, the region. Palestine, the country, does not. Jesus lived in Palestine, the region. Jesus did not live in Palestine, the country or modern-day Israel, the country. His “homelands” have not existed for nearly two millenia since they have been taken over countless of times, be it the British, the Ottomans, the Crusaders and everyone before that.
This is silly. Why is there such a a high burden of proof for Palestinians but not for Europeans? For example, the people of “France” used to speak a Celtic language. The people of “Poland” used to speak a Germanic language. Yet, no one tells the French they are not real or need to go back to the Latin homeland of Rome. The French are the people who’s ancestors lived in France. Regardless of what it used to be called. No one talks about the French never existing before a certain date.
The region’s name may have changed but the people belong to the region. You can see people who lived the same lifestyle with an extremely similar language live in Palestine and Syria since 2300 BC (that’s pretty close to the beginning of written history). Assyrian description tell us that the Amorites were Arabs in everything but identity. Even the old testament says the people of the region descend from Amorite fathers.
Jesus, Israelites, Judahites, Itereans, Edomites, Phoenicians, Qederites, Amorites, Anatolians (Hittites) are Palestinian. The name of the country is just a distraction from the freedom Palestinians deserve.
I don’t quite understand the point you’re trying to make. I responded to a comment stating:
“The JEWS™ are destroying Jesus’s homelands just like they killed him, why is any Christian supporting the Jews™???”
Additionally, the comment conflates Palestine (region) with Palestine (country). Israel is currently destroying and invading Palestine (country). Israel has controlled large parts of Palestine (region) for many decades and has ethnically cleansed those parts of many non-Jewish Palestinians (region) who have mostly fled into neighboring countries, including Palestine (country).
What I’m trying to say is: It’s a contradiction to argue Israel is destroying Jesus’s homelands because Israel has controlled large parts of Palestine (region) for 80 years. They would’ve either destroyed his homelands already or they wouldn’t have. If it’s the former, Israel cannot destroy “Jesus’s homelands” anymore. If it’s the latter, you’re implying that the current borders of Palestine (country) is “Jesus’s homelands” - which is false, as Palestine (country) only controls a portion of Palestine (region).
Jesus was born in Bethlehem which is part of occupied West Bank. He was supposedly raised in Nazareth, which is Palestinian/Arab; who are always going to suffer some form of discrimination.
Just wait until you hear what’s going on in Jerusalem, a city with sacred meaning to all abrahamic religions. The hypocrisy knows no bounds.
“White people” didn’t exist when Jesus was supposedly alive.
I could imagine the Romans bringing some blonde soldiers from Germanic tribes though.
When someone’s existence is based on “faith” (faith that trump is good, faith that the bible was indirectly written by god, faith that jesus was white) logic has no place in their worldview.
this was posted by the actual Jesus so I think this is it
I like the recent estimates of his appearance. This artist renders him even less good looking than probably most imagined when they think of someone from that region of the world, which makes me believe it’s closer to appropriate.
Jesus wasn’t a rock star. In Christianity and the new testament, God didn’t portray himself in any way other than meager and a bit of a communist. That’s the beauty of part of the story.
Edit, I think Jesus would have been easy to put on the no fly list, or walk by without a second thought, which is a challenge to our ways of thinking.
He was a dude from Jerusalem. Yeah, he was brown, and looked like… a dude. Because he was a normal-ass human being like everyone else.
There’s a deacription of what he looked like in the Bible (and newsflash: he isn’t white). But he would have to actually have existed for that to matter.
Jesus definitely existed. The real question is how similar his teachings were to the modern teachings of the churches.
The only evidence the person existed is the Bible, and the Bible isn’t much proof of anything. There is no actual, tangible archeological evidence of Jesus’ existence as even an ordinary person.
While there’s no “archeological” evidence yet as that would involve literally finding a relic of Jesus or his followers from the short 10 year timespan that his ministry existed, there’s enough other literary and historical evidence to believe he definitely was a person, and the link I sent goes through all of that under the “reception” tab.
I haven’t found a single professor who still adheres to a Mythicist/Denialist view.
bros like “there’s no proof other than the book curated from antiquity”
And also the writings of the “enemies” (Mostly Jewish writers, some Pagan though) of the followers of Jesus 10-30 years after his death (Where his name starts in written records iirc). These are the more reliable sources to academics because it’d be odd/unlikely for the enemies of the followers of Jesus to act like Jesus was a real, historical, and existing person if he was actually just a mythological or figurative invention of the followers.
Is that a broadly accepted historical criteria, or just one of the many made-up ones used by biblical historians? Why would the “enemies” themselves have any reason to think that some dude a lot of people talk about isn’t even real? In a world with no photography, no printing press, no telegraph? How, was there not one single first-hand account? Evidence of belief is not evidence of existence. If it were, we’d have to acknowledge the historical reality of God, Satan, Zeus, Thor, and Bigfoot. At least there are contemporary first-hand claims from people who say they saw Bigfoot.
Is that a broadly accepted historical criteria, or just one of the many made-up ones used by biblical historians?
It’s accepted by literally everyone, there’s fantastical reports about Caesar and Augustus, and yet we don’t think they were just myths. Why? Because they’re well attested by multiple sources.
Why would the “enemies” themselves have any reason to think that some dude a lot of people talk about isn’t even real?
For the same reason you’re doing it now?
How, was there not one single first-hand account?
The closest thing we have to a first-hand account of the life of Jesus is the Gospel of Mark, a book of uncertain authorship (likely wasn’t the Mark the Evangelist or Mark the Apostle that the churches claim) written 30 years after the death of Jesus. The reason it took so long for a record we have to be written is of some debate, but the most agreed upon is that the followers of Jesus likely would’ve been illiterate, and likely so would’ve Jesus himself, and the first gospel was likely only written after decades of “playing telephone” across Hellenistic Jewish communities in the eastern mediterranean. It’s also possible that there was an earlier written record that Mark copied from, but if it exists we haven’t found it, which isn’t exactly surprising for what would likely be basically a 2000 year old pamphlet/small novel.
Evidence of belief is not evidence of existence
True, but it is usually the first step towards finding something that does exist, Jewish writers like Philo of Alexandria believed he existed and apparently had reason to believe he existed since him and all of his contemporaries never thought to question Jesus’s existence. That doesn’t mean that they believed the “divine son of God” Jesus existed, they clearly didn’t and thought of him as any other man.
lol wat
What are you confused by?
Your response is completely unrelated to the comment you replied to.
Yes it was?
But he would have to actually have existed for that to matter.
The second part of the comment I was replying to implied that Jesus didn’t exist. Which is what I was responding to?
Right, but he was actually called “Brian” and always denied being a holy man.
There’s very few contemporary words attributed to Jesus. Paul, the first “apostle”, started writing about Jesus 40 or so years after his death. Supposedly he met Jesus after resurrection… That’s just a way to say there are no first hand accounts of the real Jesus.
He didn’t definitely exist and pointing to an outdated consensus does nothing to prove it.
Scholarship is evolving as religious institutions lose control of biblical academia and we’re seeing the envelope get pushed further and further back. Go through a list of things the Bible says about Jesus and modern academics can demonstrate where they came from and that it’s not history. Scholars accept that virtually every aspect of Jesus life and acts is made up so it’s actually a tiny step to accept he was invented as a spiritual being just as the early writings seem to talk about him.
He didn’t definitely exist and pointing to an outdated consensus does nothing to prove it.
Scholarship is evolving as religious institutions lose control of biblical academia and we’re seeing the envelope get pushed further and further back.
Lol alright bud, you got a source for that? Literally every class or professor I’ve ever talked to has said the mythicist view is a minority, and most likely not correct.
You can imagine him as a corgi if it makes you feel better
Aww Jesus wants tum tum time
Dammit now the crucifix is gonna be asking for belly rubs at dinner.
Now I understand Christianity, thank you.
Nailing the goodest pupper to a cross makes you understand Christianity better?
I’d follow this doggo everywhere, no matter how stupid the path.
Welp thinking about Jesus’ butt wasn’t on my list today, but here we are I guess.
Thicc Jesus
I grew up heavily Pentecostal/Evangelical Christian - speaking in tongues, demons are real and possess people, God strikes down the wicked and regularly works miracles, etc. My whole childhood I was surrounded by hundreds of people who did not care about proof. They actually believe the universe is 6,000 years old, that God killed every person, plant, and animal on dry land in a Flood that covered even the highest mountain (~9km) and more nonsense.
So believing that Jesus was literally an impeccably groomed, attractive blue-eyed white man with a bodybuilder’s physique in the Classical Era Middle East is well within the limits of these people’s credulity. They believe things because they are told to do so from childhood, not because they’ve done their homework.
TL;DR: White Christians can often be ignorant racists who stubbornly cling to wrong ideas because they were told it makes them special.
If Jesus was born as a blonde haired blue eyed viking spawn in what is now fookin Palestine, where the Sun is a deadly laser and the only whites are the occasional albinos, that would’ve been the miracle instead of Mary’s “virgin birth”.
I don’t know. The Kurds are pretty pale and have light colored hair. Thats not too far off.
He was literally middle eastern so yeah.
I seriously doubt that “Jesus” from the Christian bible actually existed. Most likely a man with the same name existed and eventually morphed into a folk hero of sorts. That being said, the individual whom the Jesus myth is based on was absolutely from the Middle East. Even Christians won’t argue this. He had to have been some shade of “not white.”
A man by his name existed. But remember we’re talking about middle east, some 2000 years ago.
But wait a second, there is also this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Madonna Among christians, the cult of dark skinned Mary statues existed long before conservative american christians were a thing. I have seen a couple of these statue and you can see them immediately. Important, notable, detailed and often precious. They sit in their niche, silent.
Another suggestion is that dark-skinned representations of pre-Christian deities were re-envisioned as the Madonna and child.[3]
I think the whiteness is often associated with purity, but in many cases that isn’t the whiteness of the skin colour (see the aformentioned examples). Even in the mediterranean are as a whole skin tones can be varied, often confusing the american representation of what is black and white.
Melville spends a chapter comparing the different interpretations of whiteness in Moby Dick. This article talks about that, but I recommend reading the chapter if you get a chance.
In Monterey CA, there are angel decorations that go up every year at Christmas. The designs were originally painted in the 50s and the artist made them brown skinned, inspired by Native American artists’ depictions of angels.
How is this even a question? Of course he was.
Korean Jesus is the best Jesus.
I have never met a white Jesus, they have all been varying shades of brown.
He busy doing Korean shit
