That graph is what sold me on the concept of socialism, the only way for everyone to benefit from increased productivity is if everyone has a stake in the means of production.
Stop being so productive.
I’m doing my part! (i say as browsing lemmy at my desk)
He needs to work harder…
on their relationship.
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I think profit sharing should be inherent to working.
Every pay cycle, everyone gets their base pay, and then additional compensation is awarded out of half of that cycle’s profits, half of that is distributed based on time contributed that cycle and the other half is distributed based on seniority.
The craziest thing is even until the late 1990’s even a company like Walmart had profit sharing for employees, and it was pretty nice even for part time workers!
We do this where I work. But when things go bad and the expected money goes away there’s an adverse effect.
I mean there doesn’t have to be, that’s why I said a base level of pay, it’s the minimum that has to be poneyed up for doing the work at all
Even with that base level the extra money becomes expected especially for the people working things like accounting that feel like they worked as hard as the year with extra pay.
Couldn’t it just be itemized on the stub so they know what can be counted on and what’s being tacked on?
Oh it is, and people understand what it is but it still feels like shit when that item is 0 and you worked your ass off.
Especially since in a lot of industries the profit isn’t necessarily correlated to effort or performance.
Maybe keep a lean season fund out of the remaining half then? I was picturing that going more towards potential expansion or R&D but in an industry that’s basically already hit peak performance with current tech and methodology that could also be used as a sort of “overtime” bonus for high work low reward sprints
People are really bad at knowing what is expected income and what is bonus income. I know multiple workplaces where they get PISSED if their bonus is delayed/lower than last year. It doesn’t make sense to me, but it seems common.
Just itemize it on the pay stub?
A buddy of mine has a similar setup. He’s one of the smart ones so he lives off of his base pay and the profit sharing goes into a brokerage account for retirement/emergencies. However, most of his coworkers live far beyond what the base pay provides and end up in a bad spot when there is a bad quarter.
This would be great if some/all of the profit sharing could go to a tax advantaged retirement account like a 401k, that would make it less likely people would count on it to live. The wealthy have ways to not count a lot of their compensation as taxable wages, the rest of us should have that too.
I mean skipping the tax man at that scale should be heavily discouraged, but putting that money into a retirement fund automatically seems like a smart way to keep people saving.
Time to bring back the unions and un-fuck the system.
I love how the top 3 comments were basically syndicalism. Direct action by unions whether strikes or sabotage, with the goal to bring the means of production and economy into social ownership.
The Capitalist project is to continue paying roughly subsitence wages + treats, while extracting greater and greater profits from the same labor.
But pizza parties tho!
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Capitalists pretending that they created the machines and not the workers themselves is so funny when you see through it, haha
If I have to begrudgingly acknowledge anything, it’s that they own the machines and in our system that means they “deserve” the profit of their output.
Doesn’t mean I like it though lol
It’s why the workers need to own the means of production. Ownership is everything :(
What’s the answer?
End of the gold standard.
Before, if you didn’t get a raise, the minimum wage would at least keep up with inflation since it was tied to gold
Before, if you didn’t get a raise, the minimum wage would at least keep up with inflation since it was tied to gold
That’s…just not true at all. Commodity based currency is just as prone to inflation as fiat, the only thing it does is introduce volatility to your currency if the commodity market faults.
Gold does not have a definitional inherent worth, meaning if the government wants to “print” more money while on the gold standard, they just change the monetary value of gold, as Roosevelt did in 33’
In the United States, prior to 1933 for example, $1 meant 1/20th of an ounce of gold. In 1933, in the depths of the Depression, President Roosevelt redefined $1 to mean 1/35th of an ounce of gold. That is, a $1 bill was now worth less gold, about 60% less. In other words, the government was able to expand its supply of paper bills by 60% without changing its reserve of gold. This single act resulted in a significant decline in the purchasing power of paper money and shows how it is possible to generate inflation even under a gold standard.
some say computers/digitalization of work.
Possibly the final nail in the coffin of the gold/silver standards (Aug '71)? I’m not at all saying that we should have stayed on a commodity standard for currency, but switching that completely off without also having sufficient protections for financial shenanigans seems like it would create exactly the kind of increase in inequalities shown.
Probably end of the gold standard
is that the best explanation available? i think that the 1973 oil crisis (which completely changed the dynamics of the global economy) and Regonomics in the 80s are much more impactful. I know neither of those happened in 1971, but the site shows graphs in which 1971 and 1973 would be almost basically the same, and most show a much steep change in the 80s
Jack Welch.
Thats why I shit on company time
i bet you could also draw a cool trident if you also overlaid profits or CEO compensation.
Why didn’t productivity stay with wages?
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