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@tintory@lemm.ee to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish • 2 years ago

Germany agrees corporate tax cuts to 'stimulate' economy – DW – 08/29/2023

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Germany agrees corporate tax cuts to 'stimulate' economy – DW – 08/29/2023

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Europe's largest economy has flatlined recently, showing no signs of recovery from a winter recession. The International Monetary Fund has predicted Germany will be the only major advanced economy to shrink in 2023.
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  • Carighan Maconar
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    57•2 years ago

    Sigh. More importantly, they’re not structured in such a way that they only benefit small and at most medium companies, they apply more or less across the board, which automatically makes the giant megacorps the biggest winners as they can pay the people to figure out how to best exploit this.
    If anything, they should have funded tax breaks to small companies on the backs of VW or Vattenfall or Rheinmetall, or ideally their CEOs and stockholders directly. Fleece the ones who do nothing good, nevermind with their money.

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      • @i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de
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        14•2 years ago

        Tax increases are passed on to the people. Tax cuts are passed on to the wealthy. I’m American so I should know.

      • Carighan Maconar
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        13•2 years ago

        this in theory drops the price of domestic goods

        Yeah but that’s the specific part where this falls apart.

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          • Carighan Maconar
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            This happens. 👍 I’m sure of it! Trust the markets, everybody!!! 💰

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      • @Croquette@sh.itjust.works
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        6•2 years ago

        People are already paying for these costs increase, so the companies will pocket the tax cut and tout their record profits.

        As we’ve seen after the pandemic when the inflation was soaring, companies rose their prices to keep their margin as they were instead of taking a hit on their profit.

        Under the current state of capitalism, if a company isn’t making the maximum profit, that company is failing.

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      • @Croquette@sh.itjust.works
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        2•2 years ago

        People are already paying for these costs increase, so the companies will pocket the tax cut and tout their record profits.

        As we’ve seen after the pandemic when the inflation was soaring, companies rose their prices to keep their margin as they were instead of taking a hit on their profit.

        Under the current state of capitalism, if a company isn’t making the maximum profit, that company is failing.

    • Pelicanen
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      3•2 years ago

      Vattenfall? Like the swedish state-owned supplier of hydropower? That Vattenfall?

  • @LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world
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    49•2 years ago

    Here we go again. Germany is about to get fucked by corporations like the US.

    • KoboldSchadenfroh
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  • Rikudou_Sage
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    40•2 years ago

    Why always fucking corporate tax cuts? How about people tax cuts? You know, when people have more money, they spend more. Thus giving more money to the corporates as well.

    • @Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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      11•2 years ago

      :Looks at massive increase in consumer spending due to Covid Stimulus and College loan payment moratorium.:

      Lets do that trickle down shit again, it’s gotta work this time.

    • forgotaboutlaye
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      You’ll be taxed 40% and you’ll be happy about it.

      • Rikudou_Sage
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        I mean, I’m already taxed 15% on income tax, another 11% on social and health security, then whenever I buy anything, 21% of the price is tax (so if I spend all my income every month, it was basically another 21% of income tax). Petrol has another tax extra (don’t know how much). When I bought a piece of land I paid another 4% as a tax (and I still had to pay for all administrative tasks like changing the owner in the registry). And I pay tax for owning the land every year. I’m pretty sure I forgot some tax.

        I think I’m well over 40%. Not quite happy about it, though.

    • SokathHisEyesOpen
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      2•2 years ago

      Why would the corporations bribe the legislature to pass a law that benefits people, or helps the economy? They just want to hoard their wealth. Okay?

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      • Rikudou_Sage
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        7•2 years ago

        Nope. Company by law exists to make a profit. So if people are used to a price, they won’t be making it cheaper just because they now can make it cheaper.

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          • Rikudou_Sage
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            That’s a bold claim if you don’t know where I live.

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              • @czech@lemmy.world
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                Here is a case from America: https://www.litigationandtrial.com/2010/09/articles/series/special-comment/ebay-v-newmark-al-franken-was-right-corporations-are-legally-required-to-maximize-profits/

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      • @julianschmulian@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        5•2 years ago

        do you have a source for this? because obviously it‘s utter bullshit, just looking at the recent tax cuts for german gas stations which were decidedly NOT „passed onto the consumer“

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    • @Aux@lemmy.world
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      1•2 years ago

      When people have more money and spend more money we have inflation. Didn’t you have enough inflation already?

  • @Mongostein@lemmy.ca
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    26•2 years ago

    No Germany! You’ve been doing so well!

    • @Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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      22•2 years ago

      They just like to put out the perception that they’re better, really Germany is a shit show too

      • AlteredStateBlob
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        “Too” as in like the US?

        • @Akrenion@programming.dev
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          7•2 years ago

          A lot of politics and media are importing american ways of communicating and fearmongering.

          • @Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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            3•2 years ago

            Not everyone here is American

            • @Akrenion@programming.dev
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              2•2 years ago

              Neither am I. That’s why I used the word importing.

        • @Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
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          3•2 years ago

          No. We don’t ask live in the u.s and the world doesn’t revolve around it

    • @Heastes@lemmy.world
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      8•2 years ago

      We really weren’t.

      • @Mongostein@lemmy.ca
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        2•2 years ago

        “Well” is a relative term 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • Brave Little Hitachi Wand
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    25•2 years ago

    It didn’t work for America, but okay

  • @Kahlenar@lemmy.world
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    21•2 years ago

    Every corporate tax cut is a duck you too small business.

    • SokathHisEyesOpen
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      11•2 years ago

      And it doesn’t do shit to stimulate the economy. They just buy back all their own stock, hoard their money, and pay people off anyways, while raising their prices. We already saw this whole thing play out multiple times already.

  • @Jumi@lemmy.world
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    12•2 years ago

    Another dump on the pile of shit that this country is becoming

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  • @dangblingus@lemmy.world
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    6•2 years ago

    This is coming from Scholz?? The leader of the SPD??? Sounds like someone got paid.

  • @profdc9@lemmy.world
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    6•2 years ago

    It looks like Germany is evangelizing the gospel of Supply Side Jesus: https://www.beliefnet.com/news/2003/09/the-gospel-of-supply-side-jesus.aspx

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