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The original was posted on /r/technology by /u/wish-u-well on 2024-07-27 02:37:53+00:00.
Honey wake up, it’s the weekly miracle battery tech!
But now it’s actually being produced and put into products.
Sweet, I’ve been thinking about getting another EV. Which one is it in? I’ve got some time to go do test drives this weekend.
They said it would be in Lexus first if you read the article. There are power banks on the market with solid state batteries today if you like.
Hmm the only Lexus EVs I see sold around me only have 220 miles of range.
Not sure if you’re joking but
Both Toyota and Samsung have vowed to begin mass solid-state battery production in 2027, and Toyota, too, advised that it will be installing them in premium electric cars under the Lexus brand first.
From the article.
I was responding to the comment that said “But now it’s actually being produced and put into products.”
Toyota is notorious for putting out FUD when it comes to EVs. They bet on hydrogen and missed the boat with EVs - and it shows. To prevent people from buying EVs from their competitors, they’ve been promoting new miracle battery tech for a while now. Why buy a Hyundai with 300 miles of range when a Toyota with 600 miles of range is just around the corner?
The fact of the matter is they’re not producing these batteries right now in a car that you or I can buy. When the top comment joked about new battery tech being out, it’s because there’s a new article about this every other day. Toyota doesn’t want you to buy an EV right now, so expect articles like this for years to come.
Why buy a Hyundai with 300 mile range? Because it’s available today. And if I’m concerned enough about missing out on upcoming tech, Hyundai/Kia have good lease terms that give you the option of buying out or trading up at the end if the tech improves that much by then.
But yeah, I’m still annoyed with them championing hydrogen that hard when it was super easy to see how limited it would be compared to BEV for general purpose commuting, and how much easier the infrastructure would be to start up (a small amount of BEV infra will easily support a small amount of BEVs, but a small amount of hydrogen infra will support basically nothing at all since you can’t refill at home)
Not only that but they are actually shipping batches to automakers for testing already.
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Finally I will be able to drive a thousand miles instead of walking them.
And I would walk 500 more
Almost downvoted you because now I have that song stuck in my head…
So do I, but it’s been a while and I’m kinda OK with it.
Although I got it stuck in my head after the 1000-mile comment.
How about phones? Surely Samsung would put their own new battery tech in their own phones right?
Where would you drive in your phone, bro? Don’t be silly.
Based on the article they are more expensive than li-ion batteries (for now), so probably not yet. And the article doesn’t mention anything about this, but I imagine there would be scaling issues.
Do you know how big and heavy that phone would be with a car battery in it?
yeah but imagine the screen size though
If it doesn’t fold into eighths I’m not interested
A couple of these would be perfect for my flight sim!
Especially if the battery is 600 miles long like the title says.
I don’t think solid state batteries provide as much benefit in smaller devices.
Size constrains probably.
SSB can be a quite a lot denser compared to existing ones. Up to 2.5x if I recall correctly. Also less flammable. Edit: consider -> compared
It doesn’t matter. Cars are still an unsustainable grift destroying the planet. Just ban cars and make a million light EVs instead.
Ban cars with most of the world lacking proper EV infrastructure…
This idiotic statements is how you bread opposition to the cause among working people in US who are required a car to exist
How are they opposed to bread? It’s impossible to keep up with politics these days. And you can never tell if you’re reading an actual post or just more big leaven lobbyist propaganda.
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I love Americans 🤦 There’s the whole world out there with working people depending on cars.
NOT*?
Yeah cool story but in us we don’t have infrastructure so we gonna need it if people are to eat
Vehicles will always have specific use cases, it’s just that most of North America’s infrastructure is designed to accommodate vehicles with everything else being designed around that, put in as an afterthought or just not thought of in the first place (like cycling infrastructure). So people are using these machines for things that are outside their use case, as it has been for almost a century.
As things are right now, people would probably die if cars were outright banned. It’s kind of funny how important personal vehicles have become and as such kind of scary how necessary they are (it’s a bit of a paradox, isn’t it?). To ban cars there first needs to be a good replacement option like well connected rail lines or cycling only roads (or at least protected bicycle lanes). These take time, money, resources and, most of all, political will to create. For most of the developed world money and resources aren’t exactly an issue, the issue is politics that lock up those resources for vehicles.
I.e., funding for my cities major bicycle route that serves 1000+ people everyday is still only funded by my regions parks and recreation board which doesn’t get enough money to maintain it properly. Even though it’s really great, I can’t use it after dark because there aren’t any lights until I get to a shared route and there are a few bridges that are so uneven I have to walk across.
North America has to undo multiple decades of relentless car-centred development and the prevailing political climate means that will happen piecemeal at a municipal level, street by street, year by year. I personally don’t want to wait for that though, so I’m learning Dutch.
That sounds like an excessively large battery.
According to Samsung SDI’s VP, automakers are interested in its solid-state battery packs because they are smaller, lighter, and much safer than what’s in current electric cars. Apparently, they are also rather expensive to produce, since it warns that they will first go into the “super premium” EV segment of luxury electric cars that can cover more than 600 miles on a charge.
Apparently not, though this is all marketing speak
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