• Em Adespoton
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    495 months ago

    They haven’t been removed from the community though — just the maintainers list. Now they need someone else’s review to commit code to the kernel.

    Personally, I think even maintainers should be required to have that — you can be the committer for pre-reviewed code from others, but not just be able to check anything you want in, no matter your reputation (even if you’re Linus). That way a security breach is less likely to cause havoc.

    • Ephera
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      145 months ago

      I find that difficult. Aside from code reviews, often times your job as a maintainer is:

      • getting a refactor or code cleanup in while everyone’s asleep
      • shuffling commits around between branches
      • fixing the CI toolchain
      • rolling back or repairing a broken change
      • unfucking the repo
      • fixing a security vulnerability

      A required review slows all of these tasks to a crawl. I do agree that the kernel is important enough that it might be worth the trade-off.
      But at the same, I do not feel like I could do my (non-kernel) maintainer job without direct commit access…

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        I feel your pain. I have maintainer roles for a few projects where things could be slowed down by a week or more if I didn’t have direct commit access. And I do use that access to make things run faster and smoother, and am able to step in and just get something fixed up and committed while everyone else is asleep. But. For security critical code paths, I’ve come to realize that much like Debian, sometimes slow and secure IS better, even if it doesn’t feel like it in the moment (like when you’re trying to commit and deploy a critical security patch already being exploited in the wild, and NOBODY is around to do the review, or there’s something upstream that needs to be fixed before your job can go out).

  • Baggins
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    315 months ago

    We’ll build our own Linux, with blackjack and hookers!

  • @jaybone@lemmy.world
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    285 months ago

    It’s like exactly what I said they would do after the original news of the bans from the other day. And I got downvoted for it. Lol

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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        It’s almost certain that they will be doing it and that Chinese will join in because they’re the obvious next target.

        • @Cornelius@lemmy.ml
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          25 months ago

          Dunno why this is being down voted, obviously they’ll make their own fork and it’ll likely be no different than the regular kernel and they’ll just be constantly rebasing

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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            15 months ago

            That’s likely what’s going to happen in short to medium term, but it’s quite possible it’ll diverge eventually. We can look at Huawei forking Android as an example here, they kept it largely compatible for a few years, and then started taking things in a new direction that broke compatibility. Between Russia and China alone there’s a huge pool of talented developers who can rival anything developers in the west can do.

    • @OwlPaste@lemmy.world
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      Will we finally get the “Putinix” distribution that mines cryptocurrency for the regime by default? It will have to be a new coin called “RuOil”

    • @ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
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      75 months ago

      Especially, because they can chose existing names as there is no Copyright in Russia (afaik, probably a wrong myth but idk)

      • @OwlPaste@lemmy.world
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        35 months ago

        No there was copyright, it was only relatively enforced between 2000-2015 ish. And then probably only in tourist heavy areas. In the olden days you could find any soft on “black markets” in open stalls

    • monk
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      15 months ago

      They already have a dozen, they all suck.

  • Fontasia
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    35 months ago

    Sounds like a pretty average day in the Linux community