If anyone can find more pixels for me i would appreciate it.

Thanks y’all.

  • @Crotaro@beehaw.org
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    319 days ago

    I don’t think “Y’all” would be problematic. But I also offer “You peeps”, I enjoy that one more in day to day conversation.

  • @jsomae@lemmy.ml
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    Y’all reminds me of the bible belt. I’m not transgender but I am queer and now and then it makes me uncomfortable.

    • @Alice@beehaw.org
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      418 days ago

      Queer people who live in the bible belt still say “y’all”. It literally means “you all”.

      • @jsomae@lemmy.ml
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        explaining the etymology doesn’t really change anything. I don’t know why you thought that would make me stop associating it with the bible belt.

        • @Alice@beehaw.org
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          I don’t know why you thought that would make me stop associating it with the bible belt.

          I don’t remember saying anything like that. I just don’t get why being from the bible belt makes it offensive, since again, queer people in the bible belt use it too, and it doesn’t mean anything offensive. If regionalisms are offensive because of where they’re from, it makes me wonder how people feel about my accent.

  • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Second person never has a gender in English. Saying “you” should also be fine, or “thee” if you feel like getting your quaker on.

    Special requests notwithstanding - the platinum rule here is just to accommodate whatever you reasonably can.

  • The Giant Korean
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    319 days ago

    Is the difference between youse and youse guys the number of people involved? Similar to y’all and all y’all?

    • @Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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      Nah you just replace you with youse. Example:

      Happy birthday to youse, happy birthday to youse. Happy birthday this fucking guuuuy! Happy birthday to youse!

  • Badabinski
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    I’ll throw in “folks” as another gender neutral option. I say “you folks” all the time, especially in professional contexts. I’m not from the South, but I have family there so y’all is a part of my vocabulary. I use it in more informal situations pretty commonly.

  • @1rre@discuss.tchncs.de
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    519 days ago

    Is guys really needed after youse?

    The guys is needed where there’s no 2.pl pronoun to distinguish from individual you, but youse fixes that

  • Pup Biru
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    5419 days ago

    I’m from Australia and I’ve started calling all groups of people yall because it’s gender neutral… very unaustralian term, and I love so much the irony of iconic southern terms being used to support trans activism

    • @gnu@lemmy.zip
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      Why bother with importing y’all when we already have yous (or youse depending on how you want to spell it)? Or you could just treat ‘you guys’ as gender neutral, it effectively is these days with how people use it.

      • Lime Buzz
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        1119 days ago

        A lot of trans femmes myself included cannot see ‘guys’ as gender neutral no matter how hard we try and so do not like it.

        • @verdigris@lemmy.ml
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          I have regularly called groups of females “you guys” since childhood. It’s extremely neutral in a lot of the country.

          • Lime Buzz
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            Okay, but not everybody is going to be comfortable with it and so are you saying you would not change your speech for them?

            Also which country?

            • @verdigris@lemmy.ml
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              The US. And yes, I will continue to use the phrase “you guys” because it’s a phrase that means “you people”. I can’t anticipate every illogical thing that will offend people. If someone called me out on it in person I would try not to use the phrase to address them specifically but I would also think they were being very silly.

              • Lime Buzz
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                518 days ago

                It always confuses me when people say ‘offend’ people, because usually it is not offense they feel etc.

                Well, that’s not a very fair way of treating/thinking of people, some people are going to be hurt or upset by certain things and it’s better to understand that we all have emotions and they are not pointless just because you see no value in them i.e. ‘illogical’. It’s better to work together and find ways of communicating that aren’t genuinely hurtful ioo.

        • @Mirodir@discuss.tchncs.de
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          People who claim “guys” is gender neutral would most often only count men when asked the question “How many guys did you sleep with in your life?”

          Until I find a single person who immediately thinks of people of any gender at that question, I will not fall for the internalized misogyny of “‘guys’ is gender neutral” meme. (Same with “dudes” and all the other ones I’ve seen over the years. I’ve even seen someone say “bro” is gender neutral.)

        • @gnu@lemmy.zip
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          Fair enough, it does have associations there. Pretty sure I’d toss y’all in the same basket though if I heard anyone trying to make it a thing…

      • @imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works
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        Do we have yous/youse? According to my understanding that’s technically not a real word yet, it’s slang.

        2nd person singular used to be thou/thee back in the middle ages, but it all eventually melded into you.

        I feel like y’all is the newer American version of 2nd person plural, while yous/youse/yinz are the non-American English counterparts.

        I have always used you guys in a gender neutral manner historically, but people occasionally got offended by that. So I started using y’all several years ago and it’s been going pretty good. Although I did initially spell it like ya’ll until someone corrected me on reddit 😅

    • @0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2819 days ago

      I’m German and I use y’all all the time when speaking English. it’s funny, most of my English is from the internet so it’s the most crazy mix of english

    • @RBWells@lemmy.world
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      No, you is the singular; y’all is the plural.

      All y’all works because you might say “All of you all”, I suppose.

    • Baron Von J
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      818 days ago

      When talking about a group but only one individual of the group is present you can still use y’all.

  • @Today@lemmy.world
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    419 days ago

    Only if you man in it a “you people” kind of way - like y’all need to stay with your own kind- or something like that.

  • Raymond Shannon
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    418 days ago

    Fwiw, second person is fine as long as there’s no misgendering… It’s like calling someone by their name