• @Psythik@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I’m no Apple fanboy (never owned a product of theirs and never will) but to be fair, those two USB-C ports can do everything the old, removed ports can do and more. The real crime here is not putting enough of them on the laptop.

    Edit: The only port I’ll lament the removal of is the headphone jack. USB-C headphones are rare, adapters get lost, and bluetooth headphones compress the audio and have input lag. Everything else can go, though, and won’t be missed. (Okay fine ethernet can stay too.)

  • @bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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    3 days ago

    I’m good with it to be honest. One port that can do it all. Not proprietary.

    The longer we keep including legacy ports the longer they’ll stick around on peripheral devices

    Manufactures won’t change until forced. The transition period might be a bit painful, but worth it.

    • @narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee
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      12 days ago

      USB-C is fairly open, and USB4 can do most things Thunderbolt 3/4 can do, but there are exceptions like daisy-chaining. Thunderbolt 5 is also out now, and it has no open counterpart. And Thunderbolt is very much proprietary, requiring licensing and certification from Intel.

    • @cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de
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      53 days ago

      Almost everything I have has a USB A or a DE-9 plug. I don’t have a single peripheral that plugs into a USB C port. I don’t want to deal with dongles and I’m certainly not going to replace my perfectly good hardware.

      • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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        12 days ago

        You don’t have to replace anything, but you will have to buy a cheap USB-C -> USB-A dongle

    • Dekkia
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      173 days ago

      But I already have peripheral devices with older connectors. This just forces me to buy dongles.

      Also, USB-C can only “do it all” on paper. In practice you have multiple sockets on any given device that support different subsets of the standard. If you’re lucky, the capabilities are printed right on the device or in the manual. If you’re unlucky you’ll have to figure it out yourself.

      • ddh
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        93 days ago

        You’re usually safe with Apple’s Type-C port supporting a lot.

        • Dekkia
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          12 days ago

          Didn’t they have issues with previous MBPs where they’d charge slower on one side than on the other without apple acknowledging it?

          But that aside Apple is pretty good ad supporting mostly everything. Other manufacturers are way worse in that regard.

      • @bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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        43 days ago

        But I already have peripheral devices with older connectors. This just forces me to buy dongles.

        I already have a computer with USB-C - legacy connectors on peripherals force me to buy dongles.

        Also, USB-C can only “do it all” on paper. In practice you have multiple sockets on any given device that support different subsets of the standard.

        It’s definitely not as good as it should’ve been, but as long as PC manufactures include as many standards as possible it should play well with whatever standard the peripherals are using.

        • Dekkia
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          22 days ago

          I already have a computer with USB-C - legacy connectors on peripherals force me to buy dongles.

          That’s why I want my computer to have both.

          It’s definitely not as good as it should’ve been, but as long as PC manufactures include as many standards as possible it should play well with whatever standard the peripherals are using.

          Until it doesn’t.

    • @notthebees@reddthat.com
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      62 days ago

      The big issue in my eyes is that they cut down on ports period. Yeah sure you can do it all. Here’s 2 ports for your trouble. There’s not a meaningful amount of them after. My current personal laptop has 2 USB a, one type c, HDMI and microsd. My work laptop is the same, but flipped usba and c. That’s fine for a lot of people, including myself. But then you look at other machines like the xps 13 Plus which has like 2. Or a MacBook air. Which also has 2 but at least you get a headphone jack.

      • @bamboo@lemm.ee
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        12 days ago

        When a port is extremely high bandwidth, the number of them stops mattering much. I’m plugging everything into a dock via a single cable anyways, the rest go largely unused. We used to need a dozen ports because each one could only handle a single task and all were relatively low bandwidth.

  • @Sam_Bass@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    The sb part of the acronym means Serial Buss which is what all external peripherals used to connect to the system. The u part means Universal as in one size fits all. Every iteration of the spec has led up to this point. We had A,B,Micro, and now C. Everything could also be wireless today if there were enough spectrum available

  • Horsey
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    51 day ago

    to be fair, the bandwidth of all the ports on the bottom laptop probably fit in 1 (maaaaybe 2? Just spitballing here) Thunderbolt 5 ports depending how fast the ethernet port is. BTW, why would you want a port that isn’t reversible like USB C lol…

  • @phoneymouse@lemmy.world
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    362 days ago

    This pic leaves out the latest generation of MacBook that brings back some of those ports.

    I guess OP would rather generate outrage upvotes, rather than spread the truth.

  • @Pacattack57@lemmy.world
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    432 days ago

    They remove the extra ports because they take up space in the board.

    That aside if you’re buying Mac you took it from yourself. No one made you buy it.

  • @fury@lemmy.world
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    532 days ago

    I’m on the other side wishing peripherals would catch up and all become USB-C already. I’m tired of USB-A.

  • @narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee
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    122 days ago

    To be fair, USB-C, especially with Thunderbolt, is much more universal. There are adapters for pretty much every “legacy” port out there so if you really need FireWire you can have it, but it’s clear why FireWire isn’t built into the laptop itself anymore.

    The top MacBook Pro is also the 2016+ pre Apple Silicon chassis (that was also used with M chips, but sort of as a leftover), while the newer MacBook Pro chassis at least brought back HDMI and an SD card reader (and MagSafe as a dedicated charging port, although USB-C still works fine for that).

    Considering modern “docking” solutions only need a single USB-C/Thunderbolt cable for everything, these additional ports only matter when on the go. HDMI comes in handy for presentations for example.

    I’d love to see at least a single USB-A port on the MacBook Pro, but that’s likely never coming back. USB-C to A adapters exist though, so it’s not a huge deal. Ethernet can be handy as well, but most use cases for that are docked anyway.

    I like the Framework concept the most, also “only” 4 ports (on the 13" at least, plus a built-in combo jack), but using adapter cards you can configure it to whatever you need at that point in time and the cards slide into the chassis instead of sticking out like dongles would. I usually go for one USB-C/Thunderbolt on either side (so charging works on either side), a single USB-A and video out in the form of DisplayPort or HDMI. Sometimes I swap the video out (that also works via USB-C obviously) for Ethernet, even though the Ethernet card sticks out. For a (retro) LAN party, I used 1 USB-C, USB-A (with a 4-port hub for wired peripherals), DisplayPort and Ethernet.