Summary

Donald Trump plans to discuss potentially ending childhood vaccination programs with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his nominee for Health and Human Services.

Trump expressed openness to revisiting vaccine policies, citing concerns about autism rates, despite scientific consensus debunking links between vaccines and autism.

Critics warn reducing vaccinations could lead to outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles.

Kennedy, known for questioning vaccine safety, would oversee the CDC if confirmed.

Public health experts remain concerned about the implications.

  • @garretble@lemmy.world
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    1022 days ago

    “trump to discuss bringing back ever terrible disease we got rid of or mitigated in the 1900s with RFK Jr.”

  • @eran_morad@lemmy.world
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    902 days ago

    Okay, idiot republicunts. You happy now? Not only are eggs going to be MORE expensive because of bullshit tariffs, but your kids are going to die from measles and shit. Way to go, cunts.

    • @Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world
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      317 hours ago

      To be fair, the price of eggs will likely be more affected by bird flu which will spread uncontrollably, since Trump will abolish all common sense regulations.

    • @dhork@lemmy.world
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      342 days ago

      Not their kids, they can afford the vaccines at list price. It’s the poors who will die, as Supply Side Jesus intended.

      • JaggedRobotPubes
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        102 days ago

        How does that help them? It’s a vaccine. If just you have yours, it doesn’t work very well. It still helps some and objectively improves things so it’s still a good idea, but it’s not like having it when everybody does their job.

        • @dhork@lemmy.world
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          You are thinking like someone who gives a damn about other humans. Yes, everyone benefits when everyone who is able to gets the shot and we can keep the overall spread down.

          But what if you are the type of person who thinks that everything is a zero-sum game, and you’re not really a winner unless you have more than the other guy? What advantage is there to you, personally, if everyone benefits? It’s much better if you get the benefits, and people you hate do not.

      • @eran_morad@lemmy.world
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        All those hillbilly fuckbrains who voted for trump? All those suburban moms who voted for a rapist? Nah bruv, those people can’t afford a $1200 vaccine or whatever the fuck. The traitor oligarchs can, sure. Perhaps they will meet their fate via a different route, nahmean?

    • @trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org
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      91 day ago

      I feel bad saying this, but part of me wonders if this is what they need. A real wake up call, a real understanding a real view of how bad a country can get if you throwaway the guardrails in place that was there to keep the very government in check and allow them to outright eat the poor to supplement the rich.

      I just hope it doesn’t destroy the country before they realise what’s taken from them.

      • @rumba@lemmy.zip
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        71 day ago

        I have a deep yearning for this to happen. But logically I find it far more likely that they’ll just blame anything going wrong on Biden and Obama initiatives.

        With the Supreme Court in play, They might just start locking up people for criticizing the government. It’ll be fake news soup to nuts

      • @sudo42@lemmy.world
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        a real understanding a real view of how bad a country can get

        How many people died from Covid from refusing to wear masks and refusing to get vaxed during Trump? Then Trump claimed credit for getting the vaccine made.

        Yet here we are.

    • Not to worry, they will probably come up with a near total ban on abortions and birth control, and then there’ll be that many more children, so that enough of them can survive to become wage slaves for the billionaire class.

  • @BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world
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    751 day ago

    I hope at least a sizeable chunk of Trump voters regret voting for him. It breaks my heart to know that there are legitimately people who have paid attention to all his lies and already broken promises and still want the guy to lead the country. I don’t know how to salvage someone like that.

    • @WeUnite@lemm.ee
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      401 day ago

      I researched this exact question. There is a way called deep canvasing https://www.vice.com/en/article/how-to-change-a-voters-mind-is-deep-canvassing/

      It’s scientifically proven. Try having a one on one conversation with someone. Listen to what they say and respond with empathy. Then gradually and calmly introduce your message that is related to what they said. For example if the person you are talking to said they are worried about grocery prices and specifically egg prices you could mention that bird flu was the root cause of the price increase and that Trump’s tariffs will raise prices on groceries. Building trust helps your message get across. I’ve had personal conversations with Trump supporters who trust me and you’d be surprised how much success you can have.

      • @indomara@lemmy.world
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        71 day ago

        This is correct, I use this method a lot in my work with the disabled. Often with clients that struggle with mental health, it’s important to redirect negative thoughts and feelings, but you have to do this without jumping to condescending or infantilising language.

        The easiest way is to empathize with <negative thought or feeling> acknowledging it as worthy of the space it’s taking up and offering up something related that I might worry about. Then redirect with a similar subject, but framed in a way that gives more power over it. Maybe a news article that pointed out how <related thing> is being solved by someone, or overcome, or even simply made fun of.

        If you can laugh at something for being ridiculous it has less power.

        You don’t need to change their belief in <negative thought or feeling> you just need to redirect it and reframe it, they will then have a different mental relationship with it later, and over time change.

        • @WeUnite@lemm.ee
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          51 day ago

          it’s important to redirect negative thoughts and feelings, but you have to do this without jumping to condescending or infantilising language.

          So much this! I used to be a Trump supporter myself and I’ve made some people angry because of my previous political views. I got yelled at for what I said. Even though in hindsight their reaction was somewhat justified all that did was reinforce my views and dig a deeper hole.

      • @thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        419 hours ago

        This is true in my experience. People are extremely mimetic and validation driven. If someone respects you, they listen and imitate. It can actually be frustrating to me as an adult, because I don’t find the aphorism “imitation is the finest form of flattery” to be flattering in many cases. It can start to look manipulative or lazy when it’s middle-aged adults floundering for approval.

        But your point stands: respect is an effective platform from which to share ideas. So many folks close off their minds, because they are lonely or otherwise insecure. If you can positively move either of those needles, they listen. From there, the only question is whether they truly internalize the idea, or whether they are chasing the feels of socialization.

      • @Railing5132@lemmy.world
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        516 hours ago

        I don’t think this is going to work. There are just as many younger trump/cultist/conservative voters now as there have been. Church attendance is not falling off and megachurches are getting more and more popular. People have been saying the same thing about the right-wing die-off as long as I’ve been a voter, and as much as I’d love to see it, I don’t see it happening.

        • @Jimmycakes@lemmy.world
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          Well I don’t mean in our lifetime but maybe hundreds of years from now it will finally happen. What other choice do we have?

        • @kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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          215 hours ago

          Church attendance is not falling off

          It is, but far too slowly.

          And it’s falling off faster in the more moderate churches than it is in the noisy evangelical megachurches

    • @Linktank@lemmy.today
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      You can’t. They are lost causes who simply can’t be trusted to make the right choice for themselves or the rest of the country.

  • @K3zi4@lemmy.world
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    2321 hours ago

    Pro-life crowd really trying to murder as many children as they can. That’s crazy. Good luck America.

    • @LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Maybe that’s the Republican’s plan to combat global warming, kill off a large part of the population with preventable illnesses. I really haven’t heard anything else from them

  • @dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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    82 days ago

    I have to wonder how many unvaxxed kids are out there right now where their parents have lied and said the kids are vaxxed. I wouldn’t put it past some unscrupulous doctors (and savvy parents) to forge vax docs where required.

    If true, I would imagine what Trump and team are doing is only going to embolden unvaxxers to be more open and honest, rather than hiding it away.

    Regardless, it sucks that kids are being used as pawns in their nutjob parent’s conspiracy theories. They don’t deserve it (the kids).

  • @shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    132 days ago

    This has such “Doctor Strangelove” vibes, although the idiocy on display in that movie was meant to be satirical and absurd, yet here we are

    • ArtieShaw
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      91 day ago

      Oh? Sounds like someone wants my precious bodily fluids. You. Cant. Have them!

  • @gift_of_gab@lemmy.world
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    1715 hours ago

    Wow, the measles are going to absolutely ruin America, and then spread to the world. One of my family members was ‘immune’ to the vaccine for it, and a doctor took my aunt aside and told her that basically any large crowd was a danger to my cousin. IE. “Go to the fair and there’s a chance he catches it.” Luckily he was able to finally reach the % required that from the vaccine but I think he was 16 before that happened.

    So many children are going to die. I wonder if people who didn’t vote in the US are starting to realise what they’ve done.

    • @CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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      813 hours ago

      and then spread to the world

      But the rest of the world still has the vaccine programs. Very quickly Americans will require proof of vaccination before visiting other countries. While there might be an uptick in cases outside of the US, it will be nothing compared to within.

    • @rational_lib@lemmy.world
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      261 day ago

      It’s been anticipated throughout the campaign, but kind of got overshadowed by all the other horrible stuff about Trump. RFK Jr. is the biggest anti-vaxxer in the world. Trump ran with him openly to get his cult on his side. This is the obvious result.

      • @Tinidril@midwest.social
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        918 hours ago

        It seems like every horrible thing about Trump never gets any attention because of the other horrible things about Trump.