Summary
Progressives criticized House Democrats for choosing Rep. Gerry Connolly over Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for the top Democratic seat on the House Oversight Committee.
The 131-84 vote, reportedly influenced by former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, sparked backlash against the party’s “gerontocracy,” with critics like MSNBC’s Joy Reid and others arguing it prioritizes seniority over fresh ideas.
Connolly defended the decision, citing his experience, but progressives argued it reflects the Democratic Party’s resistance to change, hindering its ability to address future challenges and energize younger voters.
The ol battle axe was in hospital recovering from hip replacement surgery, but Pelosi still has the heart of a true leader, and managed to get a “young 74 year old” the seat. Way to go Democrats! You fucking idiots are why we have trump part deux.
It’s been far less reported but they did almost the exact same thing to Katie Porter in California. She was another rising star that got snuffed out by the DNC machine. They redistrict her seat and then they locked her out of the Senate election and pushed one of their elites in her place.
It was almost an exact repeat of what happened to Nina Turner in Ohio in 2021. Everywhere they can the Democrats lock out progressives. The Democratic party does not give one single shit. All they care about is the money and power they get as politicians. Everything they say is lip service.
And the dude has fucking throat cancer
I’m sure when he croaks in a couple months, AOC will get the seat as she was the runner-up, right?
They’ll have a 73 year old queued up
it’s fine I’ve got experience
A fat lot of good your fucking “experience” has done us lately, wouldn’t you say, Connolly, you ossified, cancer-ridden, insider-trading, neoliberal establishment fuck.
Democrats don’t deserve anymore support. We’ve got to get a party for the working class. It’s just corporate whores in the GOP and DNC.
The problem with a winner-take-all system like the Electoral College is that if you do not vote for the Democratic Party, you’re just underpinning the Republican Party. The unfortunate truth is that every progressive who sat out the November election for various reasons helped put Trump back in the WH. The Electoral College has to go for a third party to be viable.
Or you punish the party by removing its political support, until it properly represents your interests and if it is reluctant to do so, you keep organizing for a third party until it takes over.
The claim that the people not voting Dems helped Trump has to be put equally towards everyone that kept voting them no matter what, until they alienated so many people that a candidate like Trump could win. And Trump didnt win once. Hew won twice. The Dems chose to give Trump the victory over reforming themselves to address working class issues. And with all the talk about he would be the end to Democracy they made a point of showing that donors get their way, not normal voters. So their priorities have been made clear.
You can only keep drinking so much, until the hangover comes. But the longer you delay it, the harder it will hit
That’s true right up until it isn’t. Just ask the Whigs.
Sure on the national level that’s true, but on the local level third parties can definitely make big gains in areas that are safe democrat seats traditionally. Then from there you fight to implement those kinds of systems at the local level and work up from there.
If you’re interested in that you can always check out the DSA and see if they have a local chapter in your area. They’re not a political party right now but imo if anything is gonna form a true labor third party in the US it will most likely come from there.
DSA won’t ever work because of branding and propaganda. The general populance sees the word socialism and they reject it - morons. It would have to be rebranded as like the American labor party or something that fuckwits won’t associate with fascism.
That’s definitely a problem but that hasn’t stopped DSA members/endorsed candidates from winning elections at the local level. Which I think is really the only way a party can build momentum, starting from the bottom and working up. And I mean a labor party would have the same issue because as soon as any kind of left of Democrats party gains momentum the media will immediately start attacking them as socialist. So that’s just a problem that needs to be challenged by showing the popular things we would want to do and fighting back against the stigma associated with that cause no matter what that stigma is gonna be there.
The progress wing should leave the party. Force the dems to come crawling or show their hands as sleeper Republicans
The frustration is real. There’s a movement to create an American Labor Party. I think if it gets enough steam we might see some real change.
I’d be hopeful if it wasn’t mathematically almost impossible for a third party. But as soon as it happens sign me up regardless.
Its mathematically impossible to have three parties at once that are viable. If enough democrats and republicans move to a third party that it becomes one of the big two, thats fine. The democrats can be the new green party.
That’s just for the president. There’s no reason we can’t have a third party in the House or Senate.
I hope it comes to fruition, but the duopoly is quite established.
Seriously. I think frustration with the Democratic party is at an all-time high though, and that might be an important catalyst.
Not holding my breath but I’ll do that I can to help the cause.
I wish it would succeed but am afraid that this would lead to a bipartisan return to McCarthyism and Red Scare at the time when Russia is acting up again. America is allergic to the medicine known as Socialism for all of its illnesses.
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why are the fucking boomers so resistant of letting go of power? pelosi is 84 years old, she belongs in a nursing house, not politics
As with most people in that position, they’ve been fucking over people for so long that they’re terrified of someone turning the tables on them. Hence gathering ungodly amounts of wealth and insulating themselves from the world.
It’s sad but true - and a very old story.
Just like, hey here’s 100,000 no strings attached oh can you be at our vote on Thursday? - is a very old story.
A lot of these people are so old they aren’t even boomers… Lol. The oldest boomers are still in their late 70s.
They’re like cats with claws stuck in something. They don’t even understand that letting go is a thing they could do
rich old white guy: i have an idea - lets have a rich old white guy do it instead
[all vote yea]
:/
Yeah fuck the Democrats. I’m not giving the DNC or any mainstream PACs any more money. It’ll all go through AOC and Bernie from here on out. (Not that my meager contributions mean much to the DNC Corporate whores.)
I’ll believe they are “up in arms” as soon as they actually do anything.
I’m not actually that surprised a vote by a bunch of politicians was decided based on politics and not which candidate was a better fit.
Jesus Christ, these people don’t learn.
They’re paid not to
There is NO TIME to do something about the Democratic party better than NOW.
Nothing much going on, no major elections, let’s just get ourselves in shape for 2028. Or 2032 of it takes that long, but DAMNIT, let’s get started!
They want a leadership power struggle? They want to play games, like everything’s ok, “This is fine?” Let’s not. Instead of expressing disgust, wringing our hands, shaking our heads, let’s start something new. RIGHT NOW.
Because even a year from now would be too late.
Old white men gonna old white men.
My current opinion is not that schisming from the DNC would be a winning move, but if we do it should definitely happen now rather than later.
If the progressives all leave the dems are screwed.
If they dont, then everyone keeps getting screwed.
I don’t see how that addresses the point.
I think they are alluding to if we split off it ensures the Democrats don’t win, thus they would actually have to do something to earn our vote.
Now that is a failing strategy.
