Donald Trump would have been convicted of crimes over his failed attempt to cling to power in 2020 if he had not won the presidential election in 2024, according to the special counsel who investigated him.
Jack Smith’s report (***the report is 174 pages long) detailing his team’s findings about Trump’s efforts to subvert democracy was released by the justice department early on Tuesday.
Following the insurrection on 6 January, 2021, Smith was appointed as special counsel to investigate Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election. His investigation culminated in a detailed report, submitted to the attorney general, Merrick Garland.
Volume one of the report meticulously outlines Trump’s actions, including his efforts to pressure state officials, assemble alternate electors and encourage supporters to protest against the election results.
You had 4 years. 4 years.
Yeah, that’s just a lame excuse. It just conveniently took too long, ah shucks, if only he hadn’t won, gosh darnit.
We have to distinguish between Jack Smith who started in 2022, and was extremely unlucky with respect to court decisions, and Garland who wasted 2 years before appointing Smith.
canon delayed it, not smith. did everyone forget about all that?
did everyone forget about all that?
Well, yeah. There’s too much stuff going on deliberately to keep track of everything and remember the details months or years after the fact.
Blame Garland
They say the US justice system moves slowly, but this is incredibly slow. I’m not an American, but if I was I would be very disappointed.
Investigations of Trump reliably conclude just after it becomes impossible for them to have any effect on him. It feels a little deliberate on the part of both Republicans and Democrats.
Looking in from the outside I don’t think that’s what’s happening. It’s just the US legal system being very pliable if you have enough capital. Which isn’t great.
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You can still be disappointed.
Sure. I can, but I can’t vote in the US so I find that spending my emotional energy on that has fairly limited effects.
I still find it sad that we live in a world where a large amount of people praise felons
It’s not great, is it
It’s only slow for some. For others it’s fast.
I am very disappointed.
Well that sucks. Harris winning would have been nice.
Everything republicans do is based in fear, spite, and greed.
They fear brown people and immigrants, so they deport them, only to bring them back in as indentured servants, to spite the poor people that refuse to work for less than the minimum wage, to personally enrich themselves.
Greed, Spite, Fear.
If they had been born German in the early 1900’s, they wouldn’t just be nazis, they’d be enthusiastic nazis.
Well, I think we can all agree that Trump and the Republican party have certainly learned from all this and will in no way attempt to hold power if they lose another election.
I also predict that the Republican party will coincidentally lose fewer elections from now on.
Shut up Susan Collins
Elections?
"Christians, get out and vote, just this time. “You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians.”
Is there a law in this country or is it everything a fucking popularity contest? USA is just a crazy distopian tv-show at this point.
It’s a reality TV show called America’s Got Oligarchy
Can they impeach him once he’s in office?
If the dems manage to take back congress in 2 years I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s bogged down in impeachment proceedings for the rest of his term.
Also out of interest, can private citizens take forward the prosecution? The justice department is being stopped for political reasons but is there anything to stop a private citizens group or organisation taking forward the prosecution based on the evidence noted in the report?
Impeachment number three would be wild, but let’s be realistic. It’s gonna happen, anyway.
Charlie Murphy coined it best: habitual line stepper
When brains and ballots fail, bullets are the last line of exacting justice.
When the rules change to suit the needs of the 1%, there are no rules.
Better yet, when the police officer whose the father of my child’s best friend is as much of a slave as I am, are they going to work for the real people around them, or the absent ruling class that despises both of us and uses police as bullet sponges
Literally above the law.
They would have convicted him and then done what to teflon Don?
I actually believed this, I think the Supreme Court was actually waiting to see if Trump was going to be re-elected or not.
If he wasn’t they’d have played the “You have outlived your usefulness” card and thrown him to the wolves.
Since he won, well… “You gotta respect the office”
For the record, normally I agree with “Even if you hate the guy, you have to respect the office.”, well, in better days I did.
Now, if the person in question shows clear contempt for the office, you do not have to do any such thing.
For the record, normally I agree with “Even if you hate the guy, you have to respect the office.”,
The office has been disrespected by so many of the men who held it that I have never been able to respect the office.
It would be amazing for there to be a part of Canada with a decent climate. The awful climate is the main reason I can’t see myself moving to Canada.
-Life expectancy will go up from a world ranking of 48th (USA) to 20th (Canada).
-Education will get better from 31st (USA) to 19th (Canada).
-Math scores will improve from 34th (USA) to 9th (Canada).
-Robberies will go down from 98 per 100,000 population to 62.
-Traffic accident deaths will drop from 12.7 per 100,000 to 5.3.
-You will spend half as much on health care yet get better outcomes.
-Poverty in Canada is 1/3 the rate in the USA.
-Although Canada has fewer millionaires, we more fairly distribute wealth (better income equality).
-The minimum wage in Canada is double that in USA.
and most important you will be happier (Canada ranked 15th, USA 23rd in happiness).
(We couldn’t find a politeness index, but thank you for reading)
But the climate.
Yes, that’s what I posted. Good for you.
I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to seem arrogant. Just thought I’d post the original source.
Eh Canada’s going to sink to our lows, in some respects (MAID being used as an ethnic cleansing program instead of an end-of-life-care program is a big outlier)
The awful climate is the main reason I can’t see myself moving to Canada.
That’s fine. We’re trying to cut back on immigration at the moment anyway.
But since I’ve got you on the phone, would you mind doing something about all the noise coming from downstairs. It’s getting hard to sleep at night.
So if we commit a crime we can just ask for enough time to run for president and win. If we win, we go scott free? Got it!
Let’s do this thing! C’mon we need suggestions? Illegal high speed forest fire? Can do! Oh we could steal money yeah, I guess. From the poor? Hmmm, nah Donnie, why don’t you pay a prostitute, I gotta fix the faucet.
