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Fuck Trump & Musk. If I was in any position to, I would kill them myself, and if you ever are, it’s your moral obligation to, as well.
Harm reduction can take many forms. I’ve always said eating the rich is vegan, but honestly so is punching Nazis. You don’t always get a chance to do one, let alone both but when you can, you should.
The secret service would kill you if it was Trump. I don’t think it’s a worthwhile trade, the old guy’s going to die soon anyways. His life is not worth more than yours.
Plus violence is what they want so they can really start telling the military to do things.
I agree with the sentiment though. I think they both deserve to be executed.
Trump should have been executed for treason in 2021.
The secret service should kill Trusk themselves if they care so much about the country.
I find it interesting that this basically never happens. The security details of these guys basically never turn against them. Not just US guys but all the dictators and brutal warlords and such. And I get that it makes sense to be quite rare, but I genuinely know of zero instances of it.
Not that I’ve done deep historical dives, but…is there any instance of a ruler’s bodyguards/security murdering them for the harm they’re causing? Cause presumably these people have others they care about that may be being harmed by the things going on.
Indira Gandhi was killed by her Sikh bodyguards because she ordered army to kill Sikh terrorists including their leader, Bhindranwale.
Plus violence is what they want so they can really start telling the military to do things.
How long are you guys gonna keep making this argument? They will fabricate any excuse they need, unconstrained by whether or not you actually fought back.
Except, you know, the secret service already let one shooter try.
Nah, I’m not shooting anyone. And I’ll decide for myself what my moral obligation are, thanks.
Ty for saying nothing, here’s another nothing burger
:(
Where can I report that my dead grandad was advocating violence on Juno beach in 1944?
freeze peach patriots
“You know how a popular time travel question is, if you could go back and kill Hitler, would you? People are going to be asking the same about Trump and Musk (and Vance and Thiel and a whole mess of others) if the dust ever settles.”
The dust always settles eventually.
Just that it may be radioactive dust this time
And that’s the big thing that worries me. In the last world war, even in an all-out war with no holding back, there was a limited amount of damage that could be done to the world and civilization. Today? We have enough nukes to destroy human civilization a dozen times over.
Trump leads to an independent and united Europe
Lmfao, do you live under a fucking rock?
Fascist parties have been gaining power all over Europe (and elsewhere) for ages, and have gotten significantly emboldened and actively backed by him since he became
presidentwhatever his dictatorial title will end up being.Check the username. Also, Western Europe (excluding Britain) is taking this threat pretty seriously if you follow current affairs.
Western Europe (excluding Britain) is taking this threat pretty seriously
What an odd exclusion to make… The government might not be taking it seriously, but most others aren’t either (and why would they? they serve capitalism, not society). Plenty of the people here (in Britain, in case it wasn’t clear) are just as concerned as the rest of Europe (and the world)…
Bleak when only a time traveler from the future can save the world from impending doom at this point.
Aktshually Article 20 subsection 4 of the German Basic Law gives me explicit leeway to shoot the Führer:
(4) All Germans shall have the right to resist any person seeking to abolish this constitutional order if no other remedy is available.
And on his birthday, too!
That is so fucking awesome honestly.
“Hey we had someone try this before, if they try again, you are to stop them by any means necessary.”
Turns out learning from mistakes and history works.
The wording includes an important caveat:
(4) Gegen jeden, der es unternimmt, diese Ordnung zu beseitigen, haben alle Deutschen das Recht zum Widerstand, wenn andere Abhilfe nicht möglich ist.
This roughly translates to
Every German has the right to resist those who seek to abolish this [free and democratic] order if no other means are sufficient.
The conservative politicians/judges have watered it down to the point where you can only violently resist them once democracy has already failed.
Me getting banned from asklemmy there for just saying Luigi
There’s no need to go around making actionable threats of violence that could be read out in a courtroom, that’s called fedposting. Try this on for size:
If the right keeps pushing, eventually someone’s probably going to feel like their back’s against the wall with no other recourse. For example, if there was, say, a national abortion ban, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone tried to kill the people responsible. Tragic, really, but that’s just the world we live in. Look, I want to do things peacefully, but if I can’t produce results that way, well, it’s not about me, it’s about what’s going to happen if other people lose confidence in my methods.
A prediction isn’t a threat. I’m allowed to speculate about other people doing stuff, aren’t I? Some historical orgs spoke that way, and their predictions could be eerily accurate.
Donald Trump and Elon Musk should be assassinated ☺️ 😍 😋 🤪 😇
Wow, just being able to say that when inciting violence is banned on most other social media felt empowering. I know to y’all this probably comes off as just another basic one-liner comment, but… I’ve only recently started using Lemmy when I used to just browse Reddit without an account. There were times when I almost felt crazy, because I felt so much rage against these rapist scum I thought- given the opportunity- I would end their lives in an instant, consequences be damned. But on Reddit where any talk of violence (against the state) is banned (but violence via political persecution of minorities is A-OK!), I thought I was just a radical extremist.
And maybe I am a radical extremist, Lemmy as a whole is certainly small enough to be an echo chamber, but in a time where peaceful protest does nothing but paint a target on your back, free speech by necessity needs to include ushering people to make use of “the 4th box of liberty,” the cartridge box. By god does it feel good to finally be able to say that.
I saw shit like THIS all over my town:
They go low, we go low.
When they go low, start stomping the fuckers
They wanna be the bar set in hell let’s ensure they go there faster than usual. My grandfather helped them, I’d be happy to continue the family linage of “making them find out after fucking around.”
Don’t go low, go center mass.
You can even say things like “someone should put a heavy duty zip tie round JD vance’s neck and then leave him to choke in a rest stop toilet”. Or “someone should put powdered death cap mushrooms in Donald Trumps food”.
Just going to leave this here
This is the argument I get in with people in my life. Even my significant other is starting to fall into this trap that “they can’t hold up cabinet selection” due to some misguided notion that holding your nose and being respectful is necessary. I blame coworkers and not wanting to think about something that stresses them out. It is maddening.
Thank you for linking the paper.
The Fuhrer shot himself, if I recall. Not that I wouldn’t go back in time to shoot him again.
Shoot him earlier, before he killed all those people.
Wouldn’t change anything, he only joined an already existing movement and became its leader, but without him it’d simply have been someone else.
Start at the peace treaties after ww1, already make them similar to the ones after ww2 (promoting strong European collaboration to ensure peace instead of punishing the losers).
Shoot the next one too
It didn’t take me long to realize blocking that instance was a good idea. I didn’t know about lemmygrad and hexbear (which federated) until someone from lemmy.world pointed out another user was “brigading”, and looking up how lemmy.world eventually blocked that instance the feeling I have towards lemmy.world is that they act like the “world police” of the lemmy-verse.
RIP King.
I unsubbed from everything over there except for Working Class Calendar and Work Reform. Normies that are still normies in 2025 making me irrationally angry.
Yup. We’re in an extra normal time and people are still clutching to decorum and civility as if it matters anymore.
you shouldnt judge someone based on the instance they choose to moderate on thats just as bad as judging someone for their sexual orientation and if you want to see change you should become a lemmy world mod and be the change you want to see
*yours truly, a LW mod
reported for advocating violence
Lmao, go for it!
Edit: let me know if it gets removed from LW :p
Oooh! Oooh! Get him for report abuse now!
What did you hope to accomplish by reporting a mod?
a fleeting sense of superiority
Fair enough.
Wow, Carlin was right when he talked about you people.
It’s a big club and us non-mods aren’t in it
(Pretty sure he was talking about internet moderators, who keep silencing me just for speaking truth to power)
thats just as bad as judging someone for their sexual orientation
As a queer person and a mod on lemmy.world, no it absolutely is not. Not even close. Not even in the same ballpark. An identity is 100% not the same as willingly choosing actions. You can disagree with the broad statement but equating it to bigotry is wildly out of touch.
Please don’t use this analogy again.
No one was born as a LW mod.
the two have in common the fact that a part of their identity regardless of choice is being attacked for no other reason than that
demonizing people is demonizing peopleare you going to demonize or mock someone who has chosen to be a cleaner or a fast food worker are you going to demonize or mock someone who believes in god and is living peacefully with their neighbours
Valid criticism is not demonization.
Also, please don’t compare innate qualities with literal choices.
PS: Punctuation can be your friend
Actual criticism of people? Just as bad as being racist and bigoted!
Trump saying stupid shit? It’s his right!
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it is odd how prophetic the first matrix movie was despite being a part of the machinery itself btw its worth reading simulacra and simulation as the first movie is a decent film representation of the premises in the book warning its a heavy read philosophically free your mind
Ah, I wasn’t aware that I shouldn’t demonize the imps crawling out of the pit of hell in front of me. It’s only fair, they’re only advocating for Satan - they aren’t actually Satan himself.
You fucking donkey.
then if you find the lemmy world bad why not become one despite your distaste for the posotion someone needs to do the work better a conscientious individual such as yourself
alternatively create a better system of community moderation on a local level and lead by example it would be better for the fediverse as a whole for people to stop being so complacent and change things in their local community
Silence, troglodyte
wow whatever you tried to say you spelled it so wrong that i cant even guess what word thats supposed to be
Sorry that you can’t read buddy, here’s the definition:
A troglodyte is a person who lives in a cave, or someone who is reclusive or has old-fashioned views.
Imagine being so fucking stupid 🤣🤣
Edit:
Your comment but better - ‘I can’t even recognize the word you tried to spell.’
You should get some punctuation in there, man. Maybe a period, or a comma, or an exclamation point could help break up that endless flow of words.
no thanks i wont be using your elitist nonsense those little dots are made up and useless and a clear marker of government control because you know who used that stuff thats right hillary clinton and also adolf hitler both badguys
They’re used to convey information and make text more readable, but sure, okay.
(addemdum: and now I saw their username. I think I just ate the onion.)
tyfewmc
This just in: LW mods win oppression Olympic gold over sexual minorities.
What a ridiculous comparison.
Same people who said criticizing political officials for their actions actually makes you a secret Trump supporter.
The reality is that complacency is complicity. I would agree that LW mods don’t make up the instance rules, but if they are actively enforcing the rules instead of turning a blind eye then that is something that can be judged.
And this absolutely is not comparable to someone’s sexual orientation lmfao. Judging based on someone’s sexual orientation is bad. Judging someone based on the rules they enforce is 100% fair.
Inb4 of any bs that I’m advocating anything. I’m not. I’m speaking generally and I’m saying if you enforce a rule you inherently support that rule and those it defends in that context
by that logic youre saying its okay to judge police officers for their profession so you might want to rethink that and edit your comment
It’s absolutely okay to judge police for their profession, wtf are you on about? They chose the job they can quit whenever they want. They weren’t born cops.
Reread what i wrote. I don’t judge police officers for their profession
I judge people for their actions… the rules they choose to enforce.
If someone enforces bad rules, then yes, i will judge that and i won’t rethink that.
so youre saying all cops are bad
No. I’m not. And I’m walking away from this conversation now because you are not engaging in good faith.
Lemmy.world isn’t even based in the US 💀
are there any examples of this?
Damn, I switched communities to have a local argument (and I remembered I had an account here), but after seeing how us-centric dotworld has become when the account view changed, I’m not switching back.
Oh my God that was the same person!? Who had all that drama and who can’t write to save their life?
Jaysus!
And they feel zero remorse!? I’m genuinely shocked and appalled!
that looks like a fun comm. to be padantic luigi didnt neccessarly kill a head of state just was just a ceo
To be pedantic, it’s spelled pedantic.
In the US it’s the same thing.
