• @RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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    24625 days ago

    In February, without naming names, the Pope directly refuted a Catholic concept Vance had twisted to justify deportations. Vance had cited ordo amoris—the “order of love”—to argue that Americans should come first.

    Francis responded: “Christian love is not a concentric expansion of interests that little by little extend to other persons and groups.”

    Vance, acknowledging the rebuke, called himself a “baby Catholic” and admitted, “there are things about the faith that I don’t know.”

    Dude, I’m not Catholic at all and I could have told you that. It’s not really complicated to see that Catholic interpretation Jesus would whip you out of the temple.

    • Bone
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      11425 days ago

      His boss being a rapist felon that never faces consequences let alone justice. And we’re all supposed to turn a blind eye in their world.

    • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      I’m an apostate and I can say that if you managed to get to the eucharist you should know that when you don’t know something about catholic doctrine you’re supposed to run it up the msgisterium. That’s what they’re there for. Priests go to college for this shit and usually can set you right. If they don’t know they can ask a bishop. If it’s pressing and uncertain the pope may need to make a call. And if a world leader asks it the pope actually might

    • @mst@discuss.tchncs.de
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      425 days ago

      I don’t know what interpretation of Jesus wouldn’t whip him out of the temple. It’s hard to twist the part about loving your neighbor like yourself into yourself coming first.

  • @PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works
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    18125 days ago

    The rest of the world should take this approach. If everyone just plain ignored and ghosts the US’s emissaries it would be pretty funny.

    • @D_C@lemm.ee
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      Not just their emissaries. Ghost everyone up to FatBoy Tangerine, and beyond.

      If there is ever another voted in president and this new ‘leader’ is a decent person, not just a tRUMP puppet. Then ghost them as well for allowing that orange turd to walk free after all the treasonous shit he pulled in his first term.

  • @then_three_more@lemmy.world
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    Is “ghosts” really the most sensitive word for someone who’s been on deaths door for a while now?

    Edit - er. Well. Just seen today’s news.

  • @Furbag@lemmy.world
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    8724 days ago

    Pope meets with JD Vance.

    Says the Trump admin’s immigration policy is a grave sin.

    Refuses to elaborate.

    Dies.

    Based Holiness.

    • @chaogomu@lemmy.world
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      2224 days ago

      The “refuses to elaborate” is simple, Mathew 25 31-46.

      It quite clearly says that you are to welcome the immigrant, feed the poor, care for the sick, and visit the prisoners.

      Failure to do any of that is a straight shot to hell, no matter how much you claim to love god, you actually have to do the work, or it’s off to hell.

      Fun fact, Mathew 25 is the only place in the bible that references sending ordinary people to hell. All that fire and brimstone, it’s actually in that one passage. Nowhere else does hell show up for normal people, just fallen angles and shit.

    • barnaclebutt
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      1624 days ago

      I’d rather die than talk to JD Vance too. That dude seems like a pdf file.

    • finder
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      2125 days ago

      https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-daily-boulder-bias/

      • Reasoning: Propaganda, Poor Sourcing, Lack of Transparency, Failed Fact Checks

      • Bias Rating: FAR LEFT (-8.5)

      • Factual Reporting: MIXED (6.3)

      • Country: USA

      • MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE

      • Media Type: Website

      • Traffic/Popularity: Minimal Traffic

      • MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

      • @JigglySackles@lemmy.world
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        1424 days ago

        Wasn’t this “fact checker” site found to greatly favor zionist propaganda and in fact be horrendously biased itself?

        • finder
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          Post a source.

          So far everyone I’ve seen making this accusation are one word replacement away from looking like an unhinged 4Chan rant about (((Them))).

            • finder
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              424 days ago

              Not what I asked and not what I said.

              • ඞmir
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                224 days ago

                You want a source that it’s zionist, and then compare it to “(((them)))” stuff from 4chan which is not antizionist but antisemitic. That is an extremely important difference, and if you refuse to acknowledge that difference you’re conflating anti-imperialism with Nazism which is crazy.

                • finder
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                  124 days ago

                  Antisemitic folks like to make heavy usage of euphemisms to mask antisemitic topics behind socially acceptable language. 4Chan uses ‘anti-globalism’ as the euphemism for Jews.

                  Similar to how the ML instance uses ‘anti-imperialist’ talking points to push pro-Russian imperialism and anti-Ukraine talking points.

    • @vxx@lemmy.world
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      1225 days ago

      Yeah, I came here after seing them doing a photo OP and exchanging presents.

  • @Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee
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    6524 days ago

    Guy only has hours left alive, he shouldn’t be cursed to speak to an American fascist cunt.

    • @7toed@midwest.social
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      1324 days ago

      Well this comment was the last thing I read before seeing he died about 7 hours ago, guess you were right

    • @AJ1@lemmy.ca
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      Get fucked JD you complete and utter douchebag

      Love,
      -The Pope

  • @CallateCoyote@lemmy.world
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    Dude all but endorsed Trump, called Harris a baby killer. Fuck him and his nonsense organization.

    Of course popes have a wonderful history of supporting authoritarian monsters.

  • @barneypiccolo@lemm.ee
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    5025 days ago

    The Catholic Church has never lived down its association with the last Nazis that rose to power, they aren’t making that mistake again.

    “Fuck those guys.” - current Pope.

    • lost_screwdriver
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      3425 days ago

      The catholic church strongly opposed the Nazis. A lot of christians were killed by the Nazis because of this. The pope is more like: like: “Fuck, not those guys again”

      • @madcaesar@lemmy.world
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        1325 days ago

        The catholic church strongly opposed the Nazis

        🤣 What??? Holy shit, lack of historical knowledge batman!

        • @sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech
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          1325 days ago

          Would you like to refute the statement instead of just saying they don’t know what they’re talking about?

          I’ll start - Catholics were amongst (there were many) the first groups that the Nazis started targeting. It’s not a coincidence that the intellectuals, the Jews, the Catholics, etc. were also the ones that had some reaallly nice silverware that would look great in the Fuhrer’s country home. If nothing else, Catholics would be acting in their self-interest to oppose the Nazis.

          • AFK BRB Chocolate
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            It’s less black and white than either of you guys are implying. You’re taking about Pope Pius XII, who was Pope from 1939 to 1958. He’s credited with saving hundreds of thousands of Jews through various means, including support to the resistance, but also by showing some had been converted/baptized, which in itself was controversial. But he also feared the Nazis were going to win the war and that the church would have to exist in a Nazi world. He never clearly spoke out against the holocaust, and though a lot of the things he said, including his sermons, can be taken as condemnation of Jewish persecution, the language was pretty subtle. Also, Hitler had an envoy secretly meeting with Pius from pretty early on, which many say was bad in itself. Still, he also helped the allies with intelligence, to the point where Hitler accused him of espionage and had plans to kidnap him.

            • @sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech
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              725 days ago

              That’s really interesting, thanks! I have no problem with being told I’m wrong, I do have a problem with someone just saying “lol you’re wrong” with no evidence.

              • AFK BRB Chocolate
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                125 days ago

                Oh, for sure. It’s not an area that I’m an expert in, but your conversation got me curious because I had heard both things, so I read a few articles. One of the interesting things is that the bit about Hitler’s envoy wasn’t broadly known until 2020 when the Vatican released a whole mess of documents that had been kept hidden previously. So there’s maybe more reason for some people to have one impression based on what they grew up hearing, and others to have a different one based on more recent info, but even with the new info it seems nuanced.

                It’s easy to fault anyone who didn’t take a clear stand against Hitler from this vantage point, but it must have been hard to be a world leader facing the possibility that Hitler would be successful and you’d have to deal with his empire. Pius XII supported the allies and it’s obvious he was against Hitler, but he was reluctant to be overtly vocal about it, and he even entertained the envoy, which maybe he saw as hedging his bets (we can’t know exactly what he was thinking). It’s for sure stained his legacy.